Vote Yes and stop being the target of terrorism?

[Casual Bystander]

Highly debatable of course, but there is no questioning that while we are part of the UK we continue to be seen as a target.

However we've seen modern and successful European countries see a different route than an interventionist foreign policy and have avoided such attacks. What about NATO I hear the nodrones shout, well countries like Ireland, Austria, Sweden and Switzerland are not part of NATO yet co-operate with countries that are.

With the threat level being raised to severe (one step away from it's highest rating) there are some who feel we pay too high a price for what has been seen as a hypocritical and overly militaristic interventionist foreign policy.

[Mr Bairn]

I don't think the men in suits at Al Qaeda's head office are going to change their targets based on this referendum. They will continue to look for any excuse to attack this island.

[Casual Bystander]

I don't think the men in suits at Al Qaeda's head office are going to change their targets based on this referendum. They will continue to look for any excuse to attack this island.

It would be very difficult to argue it either way. What can't be denied is that while we are part of the UK the chances of terrorist attacks does not diminish.

[Mr Bairn]

If this could be guaranteed then it would be one of the best reasons to vote Yes. Problem is that I don't trust Scotland to make Islamic extremism a priority.

[Casual Bystander]

Problem is that I don't trust Scotland to make Islamic extremism a priority.

So you think that a country which has a good record of integrating other ethnicities would have a poorer record of dialogue than the UK which is currently in an immigration hate meltdown?

Well, you are entitled to your opinion.

[Killie Zenit]

So you think that a country which has a good record of integrating other ethnicities would have a poorer record of dialogue than the UK which is currently in an immigration hate meltdown?

Well, you are entitled to your opinion.

Aye, but you're forgetting that the turrurrusts just hate freedom.

[welshbairn]

List of terrorist attacks in Scotland whilst being part of the UK, 1970 till present:

1. 1979, 17 February: The Ulster Volunteer Force (UVF) bombed two pubs frequented by Catholics in Glasgow, Scotland. Both pubs were wrecked and a number of people were wounded. It said it bombed the pubs because they were used for Irish republican fundraising.

2. 2007 30 June: 2007 Glasgow International Airport attack perpetrated by Islamist extremists.

3. err, that's it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_Great_Britain

[DeeTillEhDeh]

Highly debatable of course, but there is no questioning that while we are part of the UK we continue to be seen as a target.

However we've seen modern and successful European countries see a different route than an interventionist foreign policy and have avoided such attacks. What about NATO I hear the nodrones shout, well countries like Ireland, Austria, Sweden and Switzerland are not part of NATO yet co-operate with countries that are.

With the threat level being raised to severe (one step away from it's highest rating) there are some who feel we pay too high a price for what has been seen as a hypocritical and overly militaristic interventionist foreign policy.

I think you forgot this in Sweden - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11983667 - The Stockholm Bomber Taimour Abdulwahab al-Abdaly.

[strichener]

List of terrorist attacks in Scotland whilst being part of the UK, 1970 till present:

1. 1979, 17 February: The Ulster Volunteer Force (UVF) bombed two pubs frequented by Catholics in Glasgow, Scotland. Both pubs were wrecked and a number of people were wounded. It said it bombed the pubs because they were used for Irish republican fundraising.

2. 2007 30 June: 2007 Glasgow International Airport attack perpetrated by Islamist extremists.

3. err, that's it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_Great_Britain

Also the Lockerbie bombing was technically in Scotland.

[Mr Bairn]

Kris Donald?

[mjw]

Kris Donald?

Racist murder not Terrorism but you already know that,don't you?

[AUFC90]

Racist murder not Terrorism but you already know that,don't you?

I'm not sure he does tbh. He's a racist fucknugget.

[Mr Bairn]

A Scotsman killed in the name of Allah? Sounds pretty terrorist to me.

[AUFC90]

Racist murder not Terrorism but you already know that,don't you?

I'm not sure he does tbh. He's a racist fucknugget.

A Scotsman killed in the name of Allah? Sounds pretty terrorist to me.

Told you

[mjw]

Told you

Sorry,my bad!

[Casual Bystander]

Such a shame Mr Bairn, you started off this thread with a fairly even response.

Now you are trying to claim street/gang violence is terrorism because it was undertaken by someone of a different religion to you.

[YassinMoutaouakil]

A Scotsman killed in the name of Allah? Sounds pretty terrorist to me.

Seriously, just stop now. Please.

[Mr Bairn]

Surely killing a man in the name of Allah in a horrific manner in order to spread fear among believers in EXACTLY what Islamic terrorism is about?

[Mr Bairn]

Christ reading more about that case makes it sound even worse. Donald wasn't even part of thee hire gang that provoked Shahid and his accomplices at a nightclub, they murdered him BECAUSE he was white. If that isn't terrorism I don't know what is.

[BerwickMad]

So you think that a country which has a good record of integrating other ethnicities would have a poorer record of dialogue than the UK which is currently in an immigration hate meltdown?

Well, you are entitled to your opinion.

Scotland has a far smaller percentage of people from other ethnicities than England to be fair. It's hard to predict how easy it would be for Scotland to integrate other ethnicities if it was on the same level as in England.