Casual Bystander Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 I just read the ballot must be crossed in pencil. At ballet in pen is auto spoiled. This simply isn't true. Wherever you read that are talking pish and it goes against the Electoral Commission's own guidelines regarding spoilt ballots. http://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0019/142075/Doubtful-ballot-paper-booklet-SLG.pdf A ballot paper marked by means other than a pencil should not be rejected simply because of that. The key phrase in the Rules is: ‘A ballot paper […] shall not […] be deemed to be void […] if in the opinion of the Returning Officer the word or mark clearly indicates a preference or preferences…’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10 CC ICT Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 I don't blame people who say, "Take your own pen", rather than using the provided pencils. I was gobsmacked that it was pencils and not pens at my polling place for the EU elections. If the count is as tightly secure as is being made out on here then it won't matter. But it's just something to think about. Pens are costly and prone to breaking, pencils are cheap and easily repaired (sharpened) Jesus Christ. It's pencils. WTF!!!! Are they serious See above I just read the ballot must be crossed in pencil. At ballet in pen is auto spoiled. That's bollocks, you can take a pen if you wish. A ballot will only be spoilt if the voting intention isn't clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casual Bystander Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 The polls are accurate. Just because you don't want to believe you make excuses. The result will most likely be NO, get used to it. Oh, dear, new user, perhaps you live in a bubble but many of us do not and the polls simply do not reflect what anyone is experiencing "on the street". Am I claiming Yes is ahead? Nope. Am I claiming it's closer than the polls suggest. Yes, very much so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casual Bystander Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 However, if a show of hands was asked for, the No voters outnumbered the Yes by about four to one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 The polls are accurate. Just because you don't want to believe you make excuses. The result will most likely be NO, get used to it. ^^^^^ Gets thumped by Salmond in the debate, joins P&B to try to let off steam. F*ck of Alistair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 The polls are accurate. Just because you don't want to believe you make excuses. The result will most likely be NO, get used to it. Oh great. Another one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speckled tangerine Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Oh great. Another one. Maybe the branch of Costa where this guy works has better wifi than H_B's one. Only post from work indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scothmist Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 After the constant dirty tricks of the government MPs in their Better Together campaign, together with the obvious media bias, together with the strange and less than representative polling results, how can Scots be sure the actual vote will be correctly counted and 100 percent transparent. ? The separatists champaign can be sure Her Majesty's Government will make the right count Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casual Bystander Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 The separatists champaign can be sure Her Majesty's Government will make the right count You just keep stumbling from one mistake to another. It's almost like you don't know anything. The government is not the one doing the counting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 The separatists champaign can be sure Her Majesty's Government will make the right count Do people tend to smile vacantly and nod when engaging you in conversation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Postal voters got this delivered to them. Sneaky sneaky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 I don't understand why so many folk on here are so sure of a Yes vote. Football fans are not a good representation of the general public at large. They do appear more pro independence (except Rangers fans). I'm voting yes but expect no to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polarcola Posted August 27, 2014 Author Share Posted August 27, 2014 That's funny! There is almost a majority of 50 percent of this nation that beleive there is something better for the hundreds, the thousands of unfortunate Scottish children that wake up each morming to either an under nourished or non existing breakfast. Either to one of two patents that have no prospects and no opportunities. I want you to know that at the end of this referendum if those people are not supported there are others in this country that WILL not stop in their persuit of social justice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Another dryhorce alias. Expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casual Bystander Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Postal voters got this delivered to them. Sneaky sneaky ImageUploadedByPie & Bovril1409176200.783421.jpg I am guessing that it will be tied up with the electoral register and that it comes as a standard mailshot. So technically the Yes camp could do that too. It does smack of dirty tricks though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 I was talking to an English friend who was up in Edinburgh for the Fringe last week. He said the question of the referendum came up at a few shows and he noticed something interesting. When audiences were asked to shout out their preferences, the Yes voters noticeably outnumbered those shouting No. However, if a show of hands was asked for, the No voters outnumbered the Yes by about four to one. Then I read here of Yes voters saying they rarely encounter a No voter and I wonder if there's a reason for that. Surprised there were 5 or more Scots at any given fringe show tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 I am guessing that it will be tied up with the electoral register and that it comes as a standard mailshot. So technically the Yes camp could do that too. It does smack of dirty tricks though. If the people of Scotland were that stupid to blindly follow the example while voting I don't think I'd want to get independence. Do you really think anyone would vote no instead of yes because the picture showed them to? FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polarcola Posted August 28, 2014 Author Share Posted August 28, 2014 It's campaigning. It should not be worded like that and as much as it seems ridiculous that it would affect decision the fact of the matter is whoever came up with that knows very clearly it will have a percentage chance of subconsciously effecting a certain number of people. It's another cheating dirty trick to grab the following: People who do not care one way or another Undecided voters Old people The very young Rangers supporters The very drunk The very stupid. Basically most of Scotland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Rather than put it on a bet I have done over the last few years, through crowdfunding, membership of Jimmy Reid Foundation, subscribing to NewsnetScotland, attending fundraising events, doubling my contribution to the SNP membership, etc.. Have you put your money where your mouth is? Or are you just a sad internet troll? (that's a rhetorical question) That's not putting your money where your mouth is. That's throwing money at various different Yes campaigns. I ask you again, not why do you want Yes to win but why do you think Yes WILL win? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polarcola Posted August 28, 2014 Author Share Posted August 28, 2014 Personally I think YES will win because 1. YES voters are more likely to turn up and vote. 2. There are more YES voters out there than the polls or media portray. 3. It's the right and moral option. 4. The No campaign have dismissed us and that won't agree with the majority. This is all assuming we are not about to witness a voting sham scam and have the winning number of YES ballots spoiled by a treacherous Westminster government. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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