BarraJag Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Phil Roberts = Shite Ludo = w**k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 I'm just stating the facts. As it is though, it was I that brought up McGeady in the first place, I didn't overlook him. Deflect away by saying I'm 'raging' though, as a club that has a history of overspending, I certainly wouldn't be happy if we were investing as much as Celtic do and getting the same return. Phil Roberts may well turn out to be great for us DBurns, but I highly doubt he'll ever be anywhere near the best prospects in the league. Celtic admins 0 Dundee admins 2 You're obviously not happy, I'm going to put you in the permanently seething about anything Celtic (or Rangers) related, so much so it blinds you when it comes to having a discussion about any topic that involves them category. Only because you've taken a "fact" I stated and turned it into this big rant about Celtic. Enjoy Paul McGowan, Simon Ferry, Nick Riley, Gary Irvine, Kevin McBride. All products of our "disgraceful" youth squads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Enrico Annoni, on 20 Aug 2014 - 16:28, said: Celtic admins 0 Dundee admins 2 You're obviously not happy, I'm going to put you in the permanently seething about anything Celtic (or Rangers) related, so much so it blinds you when it comes to having a discussion about any topic that involves them category. Enjoy Paul McGowan, Simon Ferry, Nick Riley, Gary Irvine, Kevin McBride. All products of our "disgraceful" youth squads. I stated that my club has a history of overspending... Not yours. You've clearly missed my point though, and if you're happy to keep churning out players that aren't good enough for your club, by all means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 I stated that my club has a history of overspending... Not yours. You've clearly missed my point though, and if you're happy to keep churning out players that aren't good enough for your club, by all means. More to a club than just producing players from the youth system, but at least despite your anger at it, Dundee have benefited from our "disgraceful" (yes you really said that) youth system You might find this useful for future rants http://www.celticfc.net/pages/contactinfo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Enrico Annoni, on 20 Aug 2014 - 16:33, said: More to a club than just producing players from the youth system, but at least despite your anger at it, Dundee have benefited from our "disgraceful" (yes you really said that) youth system You might find this useful for future rants http://www.celticfc.net/pages/contactinfo It seems to me that you're the one that's upset here. Yes, Celtic's youth system is disgraceful for the facilities you have and the talent that ends up being churned out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 It seems to me that you're the one that's upset here. Yes, Celtic's youth system is disgraceful for the facilities you have and the talent that ends up being churned out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Enrico Annoni, on 20 Aug 2014 - 16:37, said: Least that post was easy enough for you not to have to edit in your fits of rage like you've done with your other posts in this debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Least that post was easy enough for you not to have to edit in your fits of rage like you've done with your other posts in this debate. Aye ok, Fucking hell, you're embarrassing. anyways i've had enough laughing at you. don't forget they contract details Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagsman411971 Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 If every club in Scotland had the same youth development budget as Celtic, how many would do a better job at bringing through quality young players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Charlie Mulgrew made himself elsewhere. He never even made a first team appearance for Celtic before moving on. The comparison of sizes between Celtic and Livi yet Livi have 2 regular's in the Scotland side and Leigh Griffiths, it's a disgrace Celtic don't have more than they do considering they get basically free choice on who they want in their academy. In his professional career he's spent 8 of his 12 years at Celtic, with many years beforehand in their youth system, he's a product of their system. You'd be aswell arguing Stevie May spent two years at Alloa and Hamilton so he's not our youth product. They also have David Marshall, James Forrest and Shaun Maloney who have been regular Scotland players, and Aiden McGeady who would've been. Livi have had Dorrans and Snodgrass. In comparison Celtic are clearly ahead, even including your bizarre inclusion of the barely capped Griffiths, who even Forrest has double the caps of, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 RandomGuy., on 20 Aug 2014 - 19:20, said: In his professional career he's spent 8 of his 12 years at Celtic, with many years beforehand in their youth system, he's a product of their system. You'd be aswell arguing Stevie May spent two years at Alloa and Hamilton so he's not our youth product. They also have David Marshall, James Forrest and Shaun Maloney who have been regular Scotland players, and Aiden McGeady who would've been. Livi have had Dorrans and Snodgrass. In comparison Celtic are clearly ahead, even including your bizarre inclusion of the barely capped Griffiths, who even Forrest has double the caps of, Of course Celtic are ahead, but by what margin? The margin they're ahead by is nowhere near being good enough. And you mention Shaun Maloney, how far are we supposed to go back here? Maloney is 31 now fs. Dundee produced Bobby Cox, so we're doing a smashing job as well! In the past say, 10 years, Livi have produced quality that almost equals what Celtic have produced. The Stevie May/Mulgrew situations are entirely different. Mulgrew had played 0 times for Celtic before he was moved on. I've gave the issue more time than I really should have, because it's simple really: Celtic do not produce enough quality considering the amount they invest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 I don't know how far back we're going, you're changing the criteria every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grass Is Greener. Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 I kind of agree what he's saying, they should be producing at least players to play in their first team. I'm not talking about super stars here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Its ironic that one of their youth players has scored tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarraJag Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 had a look tonight, and when you compare the similarly positioned McGinn, Fraser and Christie, they all have 4 league goals, McGinn with significantly more games than Fraser and Christie but Christie has slightly less, meaning he has the best goals to game ratio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grass Is Greener. Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Its ironic that one of their youth players has scored tonight And tbf, he looks like a decent player from what I've seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 had a look tonight, and when you compare the similarly positioned McGinn, Fraser and Christie, they all have 4 league goals, McGinn with significantly more games than Fraser and Christie but Christie has slightly less, meaning he has the best goals to game ratio. John McGinn primarily plays as a defensive midfielder... I'm no expert in Ryan Christies position, but he plays as a striker in my dream team... So I'm hoping he's playing upfront! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 John McGinn primarily plays as a defensive midfielder... I'm no expert in Ryan Christies position, but he plays as a striker in my dream team... So I'm hoping he's playing upfront! I believe his correct role is as a Trequarista... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 John McGinn primarily plays as a defensive midfielder... I'm no expert in Ryan Christies position, but he plays as a striker in my dream team... So I'm hoping he's playing upfront! Just oaf McKay usually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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