Casual Bystander Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 I'm loving the "it was a biased audience" malarkey. The BBC has been consistent in it's leaning, at best and blatant, support for the union and to suggest that it somehow flipped that around now is laughable. btw: 5live is rerunning the debate in snippets with comments from those phoning in and experts in the studio, if people are looking for some sort of rUK feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orlandoblue Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Does it? I'm guessing that you flittered in and out of conciousness and missed the point where he outlined other possibilities. Were you expecting him to say, "here is 3 different options #1, #2 and #3, and out of them we'd go with #2"? If so I think you are being unrealistic. The Westminster government has point blankly refused to discuss this matter in the slightest. No Plan B, but Plan A or any plan, they specifically won't enter into debate. Exactly my point. I think it is incumbent upon him to tell us which of the alternatives he would choose cause of he does not get a currency union which ever of those three is his next choice is precisely what we would get. How on earth is it unrealistic to ask what that is. As far as I can see westminster's only place would be to discuss a currency union and they seem to have been crystal clear in saying there won't be one. What else do they have to discuss on this matter ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan. Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 That still seems to be the case Stop talking sh*te! Sevco fan in "no vote" shocker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam. Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Another opportunity missed for Salmond. He let it slip away in the last half an hour or so of the debate. He still won, but that type of debating style just angers people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Exactly my point. I think it is incumbent upon him to tell us which of the alternatives he would choose cause of he does not get a currency union which ever of those three is his next choice is precisely what we would get. How on earth is it unrealistic to ask what that is. As far as I can see westminster's only place would be to discuss a currency union and they seem to have been crystal clear in saying there won't be one. What else do they have to discuss on this matter ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Breakdown imminent on the rerun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 This bawbag did just that You've been on for a while, I'm obviously ONLY referring to the ones that have done a runner/didn't see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boabinoban Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Agreed. Another opportunity missed for Salmond. He let it slip away in the last half an hour or so of the debate. He still won, but that type of debating style just angers people. Yes supporters will be happy with that style but these debates are not for the benefit of Yes (or No) supporters. I disagree. I think the longer it went on the more ridiculous Daring came across. When Salmnd turned the currency question round to ask him what rUK would support in event of independence his whole evening just completely disintegrated. He was by far the worst man for the job and as far as presentation goes he was found severely wanting. A flapping, floundering, second rate orator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orlandoblue Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Stop talking sh*te! Sevco fan in "no vote" shocker. Every now and again I pop back in here to try and have some decent discussion on things. People like you quickly remind me why it is only every now and again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Can't believe Darling was trying to tell us the MOD don't have a "Plan B" for trident, in the event of the yes vote. MOD ain't that daft of course they do, and to be honest, I highly doubt they'll tell a opposition Labour backbencher the plans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speckled tangerine Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 You've been on for a while, I'm obviously ONLY referring to the ones that have done a runner/didn't see it. HB for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 This is like watching H_B clinging to his Anthony C Pick expert, in glorious slow-motion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boabinoban Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Exactly my point. I think it is incumbent upon him to tell us which of the alternatives he would choose cause of he does not get a currency union which ever of those three is his next choice is precisely what we would get. How on earth is it unrealistic to ask what that is. As far as I can see westminster's only place would be to discuss a currency union and they seem to have been crystal clear in saying there won't be one. What else do they have to discuss on this matter ? Salmond explained pretty clearly what his position was. If he nominated a Plan B then Plan A would be vetoed, simple as that. Then he turned the question on Darling and he fucked it royally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 HB for example. There are numerous candidates, I'll be here on the 19th regardless, who else will? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Good to see the Daily Mail isn't upset Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casual Bystander Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Exactly my point. I think it is incumbent upon him to tell us which of the alternatives he would choose cause of he does not get a currency union which ever of those three is his next choice is precisely what we would get. He has, he's said the pound, it's either pegged to the pound sterling or it's part of the currency union. How on earth is it unrealistic to ask what that is. As far as I can see westminster's only place would be to discuss a currency union and they seem to have been crystal clear in saying there won't be one. What else do they have to discuss on this matter ? That is a contradiction. You expect implicitness from one side yet accept absolute refusal to discuss the matter on the other. That is unrealistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepundit Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 I disagree. I think the longer it went on the more ridiculous Daring came across. When Salmond turned the currency question round to ask him what rUK would support in event of independence his whole evening just completely disintegrated. He was by far the worst man for the job and as far as presentation goes he was found severely wanting. A flapping, floundering, second rate orator. The longer it went the more those who have yet to make a decision will have been confused. (hence no gain for Yes in the post debate poll) Had the debate ended after an hour, I believe, Yes would have gained on No. Just my opinion at the time. But the poll seems to validate what I predicted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boabinoban Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Good to see the Daily Mail isn't upset ImageUploadedByPie & Bovril1409007100.084879.jpg What a fucking disgrace of a newspaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaven Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 This bawbag did just that Gid on ye. Thot you would be pacing the room while frantically curling yer tash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orlandoblue Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Salmond explained pretty clearly what his position was. If he nominated a Plan B then Plan A would be vetoed, simple as that. Then he turned the question on Darling and he fucked it royally. No argument in the second part. Really surprised Darling wasn't prepared to be asked the question in reverse. Re the first point his plan A already has been vetoed so all folks like me are asking is to be clear what the currency will be and having watched it I really didn't see where he was clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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