wirez Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 AS - Name three powers to help increase employment? AD - ehh, ehh Workfare AS - The workfare programme that pays poverty wages? AD - Yes what an absolute trumpet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaven Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 I listened to the Call Kaye thing on my way home, you'd have though Salmond just nudged it by their experts analysis etc. Judging by a skim read of here it was a landslide, or close to. I wasn't going to bother with it but I've just flicked onto the repeat on STV. Kaye Addams is an undoubted unionist. She steers all her phone ins in a pro union direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SodjesSixteenIncher Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Still has the feeling of your team being 3-0 up early in a game and winning 3 or 4. Satisfying but a tiny bit disappointing. The shoutier stuff near the end was an opportunity missed. Let him squirm on Trident and the mysterious new powers. The square go approach just turns people off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casual Bystander Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 The repeat is on STV just now - get it recorded if its the case. It's also on the iPlayer, I'll be honest I can't be arsed going through all that again. Like a movie with a twist at the end, it's no fun watching it twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaven Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Its looking like a Panama-style use of the pound unfortunately. Plan A still to cross our fingers and hope Westminster are bluffing about a currency union. Plan B to just go ahead and use pound with no central bank etc I would say it's looking like a Scottish style use of the pound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 BBC Radio Scotland is still saying Salmond has no "plan B" oh FFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speckled tangerine Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Oh, and murdo Fraser just on the wireless claiming the audience was "partizan". If the audience was picked by com-res and going by the latest polls, then yes were in a heavy minority and Darling's support bombed at the end. They're shitting bricks folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaven Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Oh, and murdo Fraser just on the wireless claiming the audience was "partizan". If the audience was picked by com-res and going by the latest polls, then yes were in a heavy minority and Darling's support bombed at the end. They're shitting bricks folks. Bloody biased BBC setting up a pro independence audience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orlandoblue Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 We will be using the pound. It's our pound just as much as it's the rUK. What part of that did you miss? I missed all of that. I heard AS saying that he would be arguing for what he thinks is best for Scotland ie the pound in a currency union. I didn't hear him say what his choice would be if that couldn't happen. The reason that is relevant is because the others involved in a currency union have ruled it out. If he categorically said that if he can't have a currency union we would use the pound unilaterally then yes, I completely missed him saying that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orlandoblue Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 BBC Radio Scotland is still saying Salmond has no "plan B" oh FFS That still seems to be the case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Where are all the bawbags that were on here crowing after the nill nil in the 1st leg? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaven Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 All the unionists greeting about the debate being a bit shouty. Darling doing all the shouting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casual Bystander Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 That still seems to be the case Does it? I'm guessing that you flittered in and out of conciousness and missed the point where he outlined other possibilities. Were you expecting him to say, "here is 3 different options #1, #2 and #3, and out of them we'd go with #2"? If so I think you are being unrealistic. The Westminster government has point blankly refused to discuss this matter in the slightest. No Plan B, but Plan A or any plan, they specifically won't enter into debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
git-intae-thum Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Almost felt sorry for Darling. The man is a wreck. Reminds me of gollum and his battles with his conscious over the ring. .....almost I said???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orlandoblue Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Exactly. If orlandoblue wants definitive answers on the currency, he might as well be directing questions towards Better Together and their utter inability to explain their position, as representatives of Westminster, towards currency negotiation in the event of a Yes vote. It's not the Scottish government who are skipping round the issue any more, it's BT. And as well they might, because they got utterly humiliated tonight and that nasty little "mah baw and your no playin'" line of defence collapsed further than Darling's arse did. No, all I want him to do is tell me what his plans for the currency would be. I'll provide an example of what he 'might' say that would provide me all the answers I need. "I want us to use the pound in a currency union with the rest of the UK. The better together parties have rules this out which I think is ludicrous as they would burden their citizens with all the UK debt. If however they are so stupid as to do this then I will not be able to force a currency union and I would favour using the pound unilaterally or using the euro or a new Scottish currency" To me it is important that he is clear which one of these alternatives would be his choice as that would have the most chance of being our currency. As yet I haven't ever heard him prioritise any of these options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speckled tangerine Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 I'd imagine darling is lying in a darkened room at the moment whilst kezia, Curran and a plethora of party hacks are desperately calling as many editors as they can begging on a decent spin on things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepundit Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 There will be a small bounce in the coming days but I fear you might be right - he won the debate hands down but many undecided won't have been persuaded. The shite-flinging near the end will turn many off. That suited Darling. Agreed. Another opportunity missed for Salmond. He let it slip away in the last half an hour or so of the debate. He still won, but that type of debating style just angers people. Yes supporters will be happy with that style but these debates are not for the benefit of Yes (or No) supporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boabinoban Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 That still seems to be the case you should watch it again then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Where are all the bawbags that were on here crowing after the nill nil in the 1st leg? This bawbag did just that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Shagged ooot debating about this referendum canna wait till it's over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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