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2 minutes ago, Austin McCann said:

 

Good, i don't want a clever **** like you making an arse of themselves.

Yes, because a single typing error definitely signifies that, whereas a refusal to understand primary school level maths seemingly doesn't.

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3 hours ago, Tannadeechee said:

Only thing I can think of is if, like Rangers* fans, we complain on mass they might take notice of a pile of complaints of a similar nature.

 

I think you meant "en masse", but your version is also true.

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8 minutes ago, DA Baracus said:

Yes, because a single typing error definitely signifies that, whereas a refusal to understand primary school level maths seemingly doesn't.

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12 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:

How many more thick as pigshit Hearts brain donors are we going to get?

 

Each new one seems even thicker than the last one.

 

 

 

 Another mastermind here to keep us right.  😏

Although as a Dundee fan we could probably buy your support. :thumsup2

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You'd probably need to up the price that Celtic paid for their vote (allegedly)...

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2 hours ago, Austin McCann said:

Aye all these morons wanting all the games played eh. Why bother with that shite when you can just have a rushed dodgy vote which can then be adjusted to suit the desired outcome. 🙃

There are two options.

1. Play the season to a finish within government guidelines, with matches being able to restart on 1st August at the earliest. With UEFA needing the names of the different countries teams of all European competitions by 3rd August, and the qualifiers starting on 20th August, Scotland would have had no teams in either the Champions League or the Europa League 2020/21.

2. Do as we're doing.

Which would you choose?

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3 hours ago, Golden Gordon said:

To be fair, I think there are a few points where Richard Gordon manages to cut through the crap & highlights that Hearts & Thistle no longer, allegedly, hold the moral high ground through acting in self interest through legal action.  Also points out the financial impact that any compensation would have on the SPFL clubs, if this was awarded.  However, Neil McCan's assertion that none of this would have happened if the other clubs had just allowed the 14-10-10-10 reconstruction is just mind-blowing.  It's like the same argument that was made about the Hibs fans' actions  provoking Rangers*' fans to invade the pitch at the 2016 Scottish Cup Final. 

 

A moral high ground doesn't safeguard people's jobs or placate a support. The majority of the Hearts support wanted the club to fight any demotion without a challenge, so as a soon to be fans owned club, Budge was always going to take legal action once reconstruction inevitably failed.

Seems to be an undercurrent on this board whereby Hearts taking this action is only happening because it's Hearts.

If the league had been called with Celtic or Rangers 4 points behind the other (OK that would never have happened) or the season declared null and void and Dundee United not promoted,  those clubs would be taking legal action as well.

The SPFL were fully aware legal action was likely following the original vote and both they and Hearts have been preparing for this for weeks.

 

 

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16 minutes ago, kingjoey said:

There are two options.

1. Play the season to a finish within government guidelines, with matches being able to restart on 1st August at the earliest. With UEFA needing the names of the different countries teams of all European competitions by 3rd August, and the qualifiers starting on 20th August, Scotland would have had no teams in either the Champions League or the Europa League 2020/21.

2. Do as we're doing.

Which would you choose?

There is also the slight consideration that many clubs had lost most of their squads on June 10th or thereabouts.

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25 minutes ago, Jackie Chiles said:

A moral high ground doesn't safeguard people's jobs or placate a support. The majority of the Hearts support wanted the club to fight any demotion without a challenge, so as a soon to be fans owned club, Budge was always going to take legal action once reconstruction inevitably failed.

Seems to be an undercurrent on this board whereby Hearts taking this action is only happening because it's Hearts.

If the league had been called with Celtic or Rangers 4 points behind the other (OK that would never have happened) or the season declared null and void and Dundee United not promoted,  those clubs would be taking legal action as well.

The SPFL were fully aware legal action was likely following the original vote and both they and Hearts have been preparing for this for weeks.

 

 

Exactly, Hearts are taking this action because it's the only way to placate their simpleton fans. That's why they are desperately trying to get an out of court settlement, no doubt for an "undisclosed" amount that the fans can pretend is £8m and has brought the SPFL to its knees.

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25 minutes ago, Jackie Chiles said:

A moral high ground doesn't safeguard people's jobs or placate a support. The majority of the Hearts support wanted the club to fight any demotion without a challenge, so as a soon to be fans owned club, Budge was always going to take legal action once reconstruction inevitably failed.

Seems to be an undercurrent on this board whereby Hearts taking this action is only happening because it's Hearts.

If the league had been called with Celtic or Rangers 4 points behind the other (OK that would never have happened) or the season declared null and void and Dundee United not promoted,  those clubs would be taking legal action as well.

The SPFL were fully aware legal action was likely following the original vote and both they and Hearts have been preparing for this for weeks.

 

 

It pains me to to disagree with someone whose avatar is Bob Mortimer, as it feels as if I am disagreeing with Bob himself.  I agree that taking a moral high ground doesn't safeguard people's jobs, but neither does requesting £8 million compensation from the other SPFL sides.   If Hearts are awarded £8 million compensation, this would have a financial impact on the other SPFL clubs who are required to pay it, possibly leading to job losses at other clubs.  It is a lose-lose situation either way, if jobs are lost at Hearts or any other club, regardless of team allegiance.    

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3 minutes ago, Golden Gordon said:

if jobs are lost at Hearts

My spangle of an MP Ian Murray was bleating about "hundreds of job losses" if Hearts go down on Saturdays OtB.

He hadnt considered the other side of the coin.

But then he is a unionist c**t

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1 hour ago, GAD said:

Exactly, Hearts are taking this action because it's the only way to placate their simpleton fans. That's why they are desperately trying to get an out of court settlement, no doubt for an "undisclosed" amount that the fans can pretend is £8m and has brought the SPFL to its knees.

You're kidding yourself if you think other fans wouldn't have clamoured for this in the same situation.

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1 hour ago, Golden Gordon said:

It pains me to to disagree with someone whose avatar is Bob Mortimer, as it feels as if I am disagreeing with Bob himself.  I agree that taking a moral high ground doesn't safeguard people's jobs, but neither does requesting £8 million compensation from the other SPFL sides.   If Hearts are awarded £8 million compensation, this would have a financial impact on the other SPFL clubs who are required to pay it, possibly leading to job losses at other clubs.  It is a lose-lose situation either way, if jobs are lost at Hearts or any other club, regardless of team allegiance.    

It will, which is why I think the £8m figure is brinkmanship, as I can't believe that will be the award, if compensation is agreed but the threat of it may get something substantial.

Hearts are being demoted to a league with less games than the Premiership and all the sympathy from other chairman isn't going to make up that financial shortfall.

The best way to avoid any legal action was reconstruction as it was always coming otherwise. 

It was an imperfect solution to avoid this mess, well unless the Hearts and Partick case is kicked out immediately.

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10 minutes ago, Jackie Chiles said:

You're kidding yourself if you think other fans wouldn't have clamoured for this in the same situation.

Yeah, Hearts aren't the only club with simpleton fans.

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1 hour ago, Jackie Chiles said:

It will, which is why I think the £8m figure is brinkmanship, as I can't believe that will be the award, if compensation is agreed but the threat of it may get something substantial.

Hearts are being demoted to a league with less games than the Premiership and all the sympathy from other chairman isn't going to make up that financial shortfall.

The best way to avoid any legal action was reconstruction as it was always coming otherwise. 

It was an imperfect solution to avoid this mess, well unless the Hearts and Partick case is kicked out immediately.

Yes, but Hearts' were provided with three opportunities to come up with a proposal for reconstruction that was agreeable to the other clubs and which could have avoided the current circumstances.  They failed to canvass enough support for each of these proposals and are now seeking compensation from the clubs they were unable to convince.  It's a very high stakes gamble, which as you rightly point out, could have no advantage for Hearts 

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