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25 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said:

Lucky for English and Levein.

Furthermore - "Ross County were in freefall and Hearts picked up more points in 2020 than they did". Pity Hearts hadn't picked up a few more points in 2019, then.

Another completely vacuous argument, pick an arbitrary period of time to suit my argument and chuck some statistics at it.

Also 'any club would feel hard done by' isn't an argument either. Nobody has argued that it isn't an unfortunate or even unfair position to be in. Just because Donald Findlay may or may not be upset if it was Cowdenbeath, it doesn't mean the outcome would be any different.

This is the kind of pish English was reduced to though, and is doubling down on.

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English claims that there is no concern for the relegated teams :

  • Hearts unfortunate but bottom of the league when it was called, PPG show they have performed worst of all teams - their response to this has lost them all public sympathy
  • Partick, the biggest losers, but PPG mitigate their game in hand and they have finished bottom - their public utterances haven’t been outrageous, they maintain public sympathy but finished in the relegation place when the league was called
  • Stranraer - they were going down, they have not been affected by this
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3 minutes ago, ropy said:

English claims that there is no concern for the relegated teams :

  • Hearts unfortunate but bottom of the league when it was called, PPG show they have performed worst of all teams - their response to this has lost them all public sympathy
  • Partick, the biggest losers, but PPG mitigate their game in hand and they have finished bottom - their public utterances haven’t been outrageous, they maintain public sympathy but finished in the relegation place when the league was called
  • Stranraer - they were going down, they have not been affected by this

But, but, but, Brechin...

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I think English's one-sided outlook on this could be just about excusable, if it wasn't for the absolute pearl-clutching, sensationalised tone of it all. I don't use twitter but after seeing it referenced here had a look at his "How can the SPFL do this to any club?  It's grotesque!" is a standout example. Strikes me as the same kind of person who would post on Trip Advisor about being DiSGusTeD because their wine was corked at a restaurant and they just replaced it instead of getting a free meal. It's pure pub bore stuff
"You're telling me the SPFL couldn't come up with a better solution than this?!" 

"Clearly not Tom, not one that satisfies enough people as being more fair. It's a bit of a  tricky situation and there's no solution where no one loses. Maybe the teams at the bottom on PPG, as a majority agreed was how to end the season, should face the consequence of that. What's your suggestion?"

"But it's their joooooob to come up with a solution. Natural justice says that's not fair! Surely there's something more fair than this! And another thing, that Brechin Ci..."

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20 minutes ago, ropy said:

English claims that there is no concern for the relegated teams :

  • Hearts unfortunate but bottom of the league when it was called, PPG show they have performed worst of all teams - their response to this has lost them all public sympathy
  • Partick, the biggest losers, but PPG mitigate their game in hand and they have finished bottom - their public utterances haven’t been outrageous, they maintain public sympathy but finished in the relegation place when the league was called
  • Stranraer - they were going down, they have not been affected by this

Partick's public utterances have been a combination of absolutely nauseating self-regard and spiteful swipes at other football clubs, both at the beginning of the process and twice in the past four days. Just because they largely kept their peace for the two months in between and are too skint to take up their own Lionel Hutz goes to court moment does not mean that they went down with dignity.

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2 hours ago, welshbairn said:

I was more thinking of defending some beast child sex murderer or something. I realise somebody would likely take it on the basis that any publicity can be good for your career, but can the judge order somebody to take the case in the theoretical event that nobody volunteers?

 

 

Criminal Defence isn't necessarily about getting people off with stuff. Your job is to ensure a fair trial, that everything that is being presented as evidence is admissible that all mitigating factors are taken into account etc. It's as much about ensuring the system is robust as defending an individual.

Remeber being told on day 1 of criminal module at uni that if you didn't like the idea of defending certain people then not to bother going into that line of work.

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5 minutes ago, virginton said:

Partick's public utterances have been a combination of absolutely nauseating self-regard and spiteful swipes at other football clubs, both at the beginning of the process and twice in the past four days. Just because they largely kept their peace for the two months in between and are too skint to take up their own Lionel Hutz goes to court moment does not mean that they went down with dignity.

They've done a u-turn:

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Just now, Ludo*1 said:

They've done a u-turn:

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"to those who think we should just move on and accept whats been dished out to us, yesterday 26 clubs put themselves first. Today we have now been given the opportunity to do the same"

Jesus, she is not the brightest star in the firmament, eh 🤣

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Just now, Green Day said:

"to those who think we should just move on and accept whats been dished out to us, yesterday 26 clubs put themselves first. Today we have now been given the opportunity to do the same"

Jesus, she is not the brightest star in the firmament, eh 🤣

For the good of Scottish football mate.

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Speaking about Craig Levein, BBC has put this article up with a tidbit from a few ex-Scotland managers: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52955559

Levein is asked what his high point managing Scotland was - His reply? 'When I got sacked, I think' - Truly sums up what a roaster he is.

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47 minutes ago, ropy said:

English claims that there is no concern for the relegated teams :

  • Hearts unfortunate but bottom of the league when it was called, PPG show they have performed worst of all teams - their response to this has lost them all public sympathy
  • Partick, the biggest losers, but PPG mitigate their game in hand and they have finished bottom - their public utterances haven’t been outrageous, they maintain public sympathy but finished in the relegation place when the league was called
  • Stranraer - they were going down, they have not been affected by this

This aged well

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