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You need to differentiate between the "clubs" and the "supporters". Given that the overriding concern of most diddy clubs is "stay in business", a lot of our clubs will be glad to see Rangers up - as it will have the effect of concentrating the money back into the top tier and for a lot of clubs, having a nice gulf between the first and 2nd tiers is good survival insurance. I would imagine there would be vanishingly few supporters that would be pleased to see Rangers up, Celtic fans aside.

 

The chance of this not turning into another financial arms race over the next few years is nil IMO. I just hope we and the other clubs let them get on with it in the hope that hubris will cause another financial disaster for either or both or some fucking idiots create another league system to take them off our hands.

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On a more positive note - I'm a fan of Tam McManus. He's a rarity in the sense that he's an ex-footballer that actually offers a bit of insight. I like his enthusiasm and some of his one-liners are pretty sharp.

Miles better than 'biscuits' the dribbler anyway.

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The amount of pundits/journalists on Twitter last night and this morning going on about how next year is going to be interesting/intriguing/exciting sickens me too. They're all jizzing their pants over this, whilst real fans are just sad that the sycophancy is going to return.

 

No doubt BT Sport and Sky will ditch the Championship coverage in a hearbeat, as will Sportscene (fucking shite anwyway) and we'll be back to "normal" ie only the top flight matters.

 

Disgusting.

 

 

You only need to look at the attention League One and Two received after that brave team from Glasgow won they divisions at a canter and only spending £70,000,000 in doing so. Annan got a bit of press after thumping Accies in the cup recently but other than that its been a disgrace, no doubt it will be the same for the Championship next season.

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Keith Jackson and a Sevco supporting Tartan Army member....BBC balance yet again.

Keith Jackson can try and tell me, as a Saints fan, that the last 4 years have been terrible but he won't be able to convince me. Yeah maybe the chairman has had to work a bit harder on the financial side but can anyone honestly say their club has suffered as much as this rocket was trying to make out earlier on? With the exception of perhaps Hibs, Utd and Killie (could even include Hamilton I guess) I'd say the last few years have been pretty good for most fans

 

Aberdeen have stopped being embarrassed by themselves, the highland teams have been pretty consistent and have won trophies, Hearts had a blip but seemed happier and better for it, Thistle and Dundee have improved each year and can't really complain, Motherwell have had some highs and some lows (that eventually turned into highs) but hardly been a disaster and Saints have had a fantastic time.

 

I may be paraphrasing but I'm sure I heard him utter something like "with Rangers being back in the top league along with Hibs and Utd the Scottish Premiership will be a proper league again".

 

It's been a proper league all along Keith with the 12 best teams (in terms of merit) playing each other over a season trying to get as high up the table as possible. If the current bottom 2 go down it's because they are gash and which i hate to admit it the Ibrox outfit have won the league in what appears to be a fair and square manner (until we find out King has some involvement in this Panama mess) so they deserve their chance at the top table. But it shouldn't be painted as a heroic return of the knight in shining blue armour who will rescue the stranded maiden that is the Scottish game.

 

Football really does get a bad deal in terms of who is given airtime to talk about the sport. Golf, Rugby, Snooker, Tennis, Swimming, Bowls, Darts etc... all have much better commentary and punditry that add to the event being watched. But what do we get on a Wednesday afternoon, Keith bloody Jackson emptying his load all over radio without any opposition. And don't get me started on that spluttering mess Billy Brown, get him right tae f**k. He's no business being anywhere near a microphone.

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Keith Jackson holds supporters in a contempt that he doesn't even try to thinly veil. He was on Sportsound a few weeks ago, talking about the national team, and contributions from fans by text or Email got nothing but sneers and condescension from him.

 

It's patently clear that all the predictions of doom - "Armageddon", "social unrest", "nuclear winter", "unviability", "slow lingering death", the 5 clubs going bust, ending up like the League of Wales - have proven totally false.

 

No-one has really suffered financially, most attendances have gone up, cup trophies have been shared around, we've had something of a title race, the national team has picked-up, more young players have come through, different clubs have had shots at Europe (although their results is possibly the only area to have stagnated), and so on. Even financially TV money never fell, has now gone up, and there's now an all-time-high league naming rights deal too. We've also seen SPL-SFL merger go through, playoff introduced into Premiership, and a pyramid system started-up beneath SPFL2.

 

To suggest that Rangers have arrived in the nick of time and saved the game from disaster is revisionism on a grand - indeed on a brazen - scale.

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Doncaster was just on sky sports jizzing his pants over it as well. Worldwide interest blah blah more money for everyone etc etc.

Is that all the extra money that we didn't have when they were in the top league aye? That we haven't missed in the last 4 years?

 

People are also getting their knickers in a twist over him saying they got 'demoted', which of course they weren't: they were expelled from the SPL he headed and then applied to join the SFL.

 

I actually find it more disappointing he refers to "4 Old Firm derbies next season".

 

Ok, it is likely, but Rangers finishing 'Top 6' isn't guaranteed.

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On a more positive note - I'm a fan of Tam McManus. He's a rarity in the sense that he's an ex-footballer that actually offers a bit of insight. I like his enthusiasm and some of his one-liners are pretty sharp.

Miles better than 'biscuits' the dribbler anyway.

 

Absolutely agree with this think he is excellent good to hear a fresh voice too to be honest.

 

Also spoke very well about Kris Doolan maybe it's his pal!! :lol:

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Are their "fans" all still gonna boycott the grounds of the teams that voted them out?

 

If so..........superb

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Are their "fans" all still gonna boycott the grounds of the teams that voted them out?

If so..........superb

They'll certainly be boycotting Dundee United next season, eh? Heh

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Tragic that that's being said but what can you expect when you listen to the pish spouted by our very own.

Should be a fantastic listen.... :rolleyes:

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Tragic that that's being said but what can you expect when you listen to the pish spouted by our very own.

Should be a fantastic listen.... :rolleyes:

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You probably should have left your response out of that screenshot, Cameron.

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different clubs have had shots at Europe (although their results is possibly the only area to have stagnated), 

 

Not really. Most clubs' brief forays into Europe resulted in more wins than the 1 in 25 that's never mentioned.

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TalkSport know exactly what they're doing with that. Top trolling.

Thing is I think Durham believes half of what he's saying about The Rangers, he seems to have a thing for them. But he is going way OTT here with the wind ups. :lol:

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Thing is I think Durham believes half of what he's saying about The Rangers, he seems to have a thing for them. But he is going way OTT here with the wind ups. :lol:

 

They won't be solely responsible for what they put on their shows though I imagine.  They'll be prompted to go onto certain subjects, and happily do it to get some good trolling in.  Helps that most people who would phone into TalkSport will be absolute seething messes to start with.

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Talksport = commercial concern, radio equivalent of a red-top.

 

BBC Radio Scotland = public service broadcaster.

 

 

Not really. Most clubs' brief forays into Europe resulted in more wins than the 1 in 25 that's never mentioned.

 

Fair.

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Ross Wallace appears to be under the impression that the premier league has been on hiatus for the past four years.

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