kingjoey Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 Sportsound, quite rightly on occasions, takes a helluva battering on here. But yesterday’s show with the Tommy Wright interview was superb. Sounds like a great guy, and by November James McPake will have moved on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 (edited) 42 minutes ago, kingjoey said: Sportsound, quite rightly on occasions, takes a helluva battering on here. But yesterday’s show with the Tommy Wright interview was superb. Sounds like a great guy, and by November James McPake will have moved on. It was a great listen, I would find it very strange to see Tommy Wright at any other club in Scotland when he said that's what he would be looking for. He didn't say much about the McCann spat but you could still here he was raging about it, if any manager gets the sack in the early months of the season I'm sure Tommy wright will be one of the favorites to take the job. Edited July 7, 2020 by wastecoatwilly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 An exception to the rule, simply proves the rule. In general Sportsound is surprisingly myopic. At times you'd forget there are 42 clubs in the league the way they focus on just a few. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 44 minutes ago, Ric said: An exception to the rule, simply proves the rule. In general Sportsound is surprisingly myopic. At times you'd forget there are 42 clubs in the league the way they focus on just a few. Tommy also made that point and had a pop at the BBC for only visiting Perth 3 times in a season but made his point and moved on very quickly with no fanfare. The coverage of sportsound is the best we have on Scottish football, myopic no polarized yes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 (edited) Today's podcast is out, all about the arbitration with people who actually know what they're talking about, and Tom English. Impression I got is that because it will pretty well entirely be based on adherence to the SFA and SPFL rule books, rather than company law, Hearts don't have much of a chance unless they get hold of some serious dirt in document recovery, which I think is unlikely. Edited July 7, 2020 by welshbairn 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie McSquackle Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 I'll give it a listen. It sounds as though it should be made compulsory listening for their pundits before they go on the shows at the weekend but I'm sure they'll come out with the same guff. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWorldwideJr Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 8 minutes ago, wastecoatwilly said: The coverage of sportsound is the best we have on Scottish football, myopic no polarized yes. Even if that were true, which I don't think it is , that doesn't really mean anything. Its not a defence of a terrible programme to say 'oh yeah well nothing is better than it'. I really like Scottish football, it should be an absolute slam dunk to be able to get me to tune into a show where people talk about scottish football for an hour. The fact that sportsound is so bad that I don't even consider it and haven't for years (and as can be seen from this thread I'm far from an outlier) is an abject failure regardless of the quality of the opposition. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacArab Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 15 minutes ago, Archie McSquackle said: I'll give it a listen. It sounds as though it should be made compulsory listening for their pundits before they go on the shows at the weekend but I'm sure they'll come out with the same guff. It is well worth a listen. The Arbitration guy was really clear, and what he is saying, (as Welshbairn mentioned above) is a good indication of why Neil Doncaster was looking so comfortable on Sky Sports yesterday, as opposed to sweating about his impending doom at the hands of the Arbitrators. Even If there is a bit of grubby laundry to be aired in the docs, nobody gets to see it, it’s illegal to leak it, and as long as it doesn’t rise to the level of criminality, Hearts and Thistle appear to be required to abide by the rules of membership of the SPFL, whether they believe it to be fair or not. Personally, I would like him to be Arbitrating in this case. Also really liked Chris Mclaughlin as well, who was a decent foil to Tom English’s defence of Hearts and Thistle, with a far more balanced approach, taking the damage this could do to every club in Scotland in to account, not just the Desperate Duo. Nice to see Tom adding in (after his mandatory, “what did they expect to happen”), that UTD, Raith and Cove are being harshly treated here too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesM82 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 15 minutes ago, MacArab said: It is well worth a listen. The Arbitration guy was really clear, and what he is saying, (as Welshbairn mentioned above) is a good indication of why Neil Doncaster was looking so comfortable on Sky Sports yesterday, as opposed to sweating about his impending doom at the hands of the Arbitrators. Even If there is a bit of grubby laundry to be aired in the docs, nobody gets to see it, it’s illegal to leak it, and as long as it doesn’t rise to the level of criminality, Hearts and Thistle appear to be required to abide by the rules of membership of the SPFL, whether they believe it to be fair or not. Personally, I would like him to be Arbitrating in this case. Also really liked Chris Mclaughlin as well, who was a decent foil to Tom English’s defence of Hearts and Thistle, with a far more balanced approach, taking the damage this could do to every club in Scotland in to account, not just the Desperate Duo. Nice to see Tom adding in (after his mandatory, “what did they expect to happen”), that UTD, Raith and Cove are being harshly treated here too. What's really daft about that argument is that even if United, Raith and Cove had said they were all in favour of reconstruction (of whatever variety), it wouldn't have been anywhere near passing. So what were they supposed to do about it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 8GamesToGo Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, JamesM82 said: What's really daft about that argument is that even if United, Raith and Cove had said they were all in favour of reconstruction (of whatever variety), it wouldn't have been anywhere near passing. So what were they supposed to do about it? They could have voted against voting titles for themselves and pushed to end the league by, you know, playing games. The Scottish Government has allowed professional sport to take place since June 22nd. If the SPFL had held off clubs could have prepared safety protocols etc and have been ready to restart. 20 or more leagues aorund the world - not all just big rich leagues - have done that. Hearts and Thistle have every right to go to court, just like all the other leagues that ended early in Belgium, France and Holland. And it's not like they kept it secret. We've been banging on about doing it for 3 months! What were D Utd and Raith doing those three months? Did it not occur to them this could impact them and maybe they should gett behind reconstruction and try to persuade fellow clubs to do that too instead of just joining the mass pile-on onto Hearts and Thistle? There are consequences to actions and decisions. Just like a consequence of us dicking around with Craig Levein too long was us being bottom when football stopped, a consequence of the poor decisions by the SPFL supported by other clubs is the court case and associated ramifications for other clubs. Edited July 7, 2020 by 8GamesToGo 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scmwell Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 I don’t really understand why United and Raith are the ones having to fight the case ? Surely it should be the spfl that should be footing the cost ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 34 minutes ago, 8GamesToGo said: They could have voted against voting titles for themselves and pushed to end the league by, you know, playing games. The Scottish Government has allowed professional sport to take place since June 22nd. If the SPFL had held off clubs could have prepared safety protocols etc and have been ready to restart. 20 or more leagues aorund the world - not all just big rich leagues - have done that. Hearts and Thistle have every right to go to court, just like all the other leagues that ended early in Belgium, France and Holland. And it's not like they kept it secret. We've been banging on about doing it for 3 months! What were D Utd and Raith doing those three months? Did it not occur to them this could impact them and maybe they should gett behind reconstruction and try to persuade fellow clubs to do that too instead of just joining the mass pile-on onto Hearts and Thistle? There are consequences to actions and decisions. Just like a consequence of us dicking around with Craig Levein too long was us being bottom when football stopped, a consequence of the poor decisions by the SPFL supported by other clubs is the court case and associated ramifications for other clubs. Shut up moron 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tannadeechee Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 26 minutes ago, 8GamesToGo said: They could have voted against voting titles for themselves and pushed to end the league by, you know, playing games. The Scottish Government has allowed professional sport to take place since June 22nd. If the SPFL had held off clubs could have prepared safety protocols etc and have been ready to restart. 20 or more leagues aorund the world - not all just big rich leagues - have done that. Hearts and Thistle have every right to go to court, just like all the other leagues that ended early in Belgium, France and Holland. And it's not like they kept it secret. We've been banging on about doing it for 3 months! What were D Utd and Raith doing those three months? Did it not occur to them this could impact them and maybe they should gett behind reconstruction and try to persuade fellow clubs to do that too instead of just joining the mass pile-on onto Hearts and Thistle? There are consequences to actions and decisions. Just like a consequence of us dicking around with Craig Levein too long was us being bottom when football stopped, a consequence of the poor decisions by the SPFL supported by other clubs is the court case and associated ramifications for other clubs. Absolute rubbish. Scot Gov only gave permission for contact training from Monday 6th July. Other countries around the world have different governments and therefore different rules, hence why they have been allowed to play. "they should gett behind reconstruction and try to persuade fellow clubs to do that too" Maybe Ann Budge could have done this. Picked up the phone and chatted to lower league clubs to try and get support, because she didn't. Maybe if she'd spoken with clubs reconstruction may have taken place as the plan behind the headline 14-10-10-10 was rubbish. She was the one put in charge of the reconstruction group. There is no mass pile on on Hearts. Many clubs have been disadvantaged, some far more than others. Also if ICT, Hearts & Rangers hadn't tried to void the leagues, they might also have had more support. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The DA Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 16 minutes ago, DA Baracus said: Shut up moron Even if United, Raith and Cove had each voted for reconstruction, it still wouldn't have gone through. And Hearts would still have gone to court. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flybhoy Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 1 hour ago, 8GamesToGo said: They could have voted against voting titles for themselves and pushed to end the league by, you know, playing games. The Scottish Government has allowed professional sport to take place since June 22nd. If the SPFL had held off clubs could have prepared safety protocols etc and have been ready to restart. 20 or more leagues aorund the world - not all just big rich leagues - have done that. Hearts and Thistle have every right to go to court, just like all the other leagues that ended early in Belgium, France and Holland. And it's not like they kept it secret. We've been banging on about doing it for 3 months! What were D Utd and Raith doing those three months? Did it not occur to them this could impact them and maybe they should gett behind reconstruction and try to persuade fellow clubs to do that too instead of just joining the mass pile-on onto Hearts and Thistle? There are consequences to actions and decisions. Just like a consequence of us dicking around with Craig Levein too long was us being bottom when football stopped, a consequence of the poor decisions by the SPFL supported by other clubs is the court case and associated ramifications for other clubs. Absolute frothing fucking mess 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 1 hour ago, scmwell said: I don’t really understand why United and Raith are the ones having to fight the case ? Surely it should be the spfl that should be footing the cost ? The SPFL are fighting the case. United, Raith and Cove have chosen to also fight it independently to protect their own interests, though they had no obligation to. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lofarl Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 Robbie neilson on. Fantastic 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 English is back, I was hoping he'd fucked off for good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainbowrising Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 On 07/07/2020 at 19:19, Tannadeechee said: Absolute rubbish. Scot Gov only gave permission for contact training from Monday 6th July. Hearts fans seem to have a complete mental block about this. Just get on with the games, eh. I cant even get on court for a game of squash never mind a professional football league getting underway. But they just churn the same thing over and over. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeredbook Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 11 minutes ago, Zen Archer Esq. said: English is back, I was hoping he'd fucked off for good. slabbering pish . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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