Austin McCann Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 8 minutes ago, DA Baracus said: Yes, because a single typing error definitely signifies that, whereas a refusal to understand primary school level maths seemingly doesn't. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tannadeechee Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 19 minutes ago, Mark Connolly said: I think you meant "en masse", but your version is also true. Fair point, I did indeed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Alert Mongoose said: Each game of ping pong is started by Anne Budge firing the partially lubricated ball at a fair speed out of her gash. Sky would want exclusive rights to that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 How many more thick as pigshit Hearts brain donors are we going to get? Each new one seems even thicker than the last one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin McCann Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 12 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: How many more thick as pigshit Hearts brain donors are we going to get? Each new one seems even thicker than the last one. Another mastermind here to keep us right. Although as a Dundee fan we could probably buy your support. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 You'd probably need to up the price that Celtic paid for their vote (allegedly)... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Austin McCann said: Aye all these morons wanting all the games played eh. Why bother with that shite when you can just have a rushed dodgy vote which can then be adjusted to suit the desired outcome. There are two options. 1. Play the season to a finish within government guidelines, with matches being able to restart on 1st August at the earliest. With UEFA needing the names of the different countries teams of all European competitions by 3rd August, and the qualifiers starting on 20th August, Scotland would have had no teams in either the Champions League or the Europa League 2020/21. 2. Do as we're doing. Which would you choose? 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Chiles Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 3 hours ago, Golden Gordon said: To be fair, I think there are a few points where Richard Gordon manages to cut through the crap & highlights that Hearts & Thistle no longer, allegedly, hold the moral high ground through acting in self interest through legal action. Also points out the financial impact that any compensation would have on the SPFL clubs, if this was awarded. However, Neil McCan's assertion that none of this would have happened if the other clubs had just allowed the 14-10-10-10 reconstruction is just mind-blowing. It's like the same argument that was made about the Hibs fans' actions provoking Rangers*' fans to invade the pitch at the 2016 Scottish Cup Final. A moral high ground doesn't safeguard people's jobs or placate a support. The majority of the Hearts support wanted the club to fight any demotion without a challenge, so as a soon to be fans owned club, Budge was always going to take legal action once reconstruction inevitably failed. Seems to be an undercurrent on this board whereby Hearts taking this action is only happening because it's Hearts. If the league had been called with Celtic or Rangers 4 points behind the other (OK that would never have happened) or the season declared null and void and Dundee United not promoted, those clubs would be taking legal action as well. The SPFL were fully aware legal action was likely following the original vote and both they and Hearts have been preparing for this for weeks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthBank Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 16 minutes ago, kingjoey said: There are two options. 1. Play the season to a finish within government guidelines, with matches being able to restart on 1st August at the earliest. With UEFA needing the names of the different countries teams of all European competitions by 3rd August, and the qualifiers starting on 20th August, Scotland would have had no teams in either the Champions League or the Europa League 2020/21. 2. Do as we're doing. Which would you choose? There is also the slight consideration that many clubs had lost most of their squads on June 10th or thereabouts. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAD Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 25 minutes ago, Jackie Chiles said: A moral high ground doesn't safeguard people's jobs or placate a support. The majority of the Hearts support wanted the club to fight any demotion without a challenge, so as a soon to be fans owned club, Budge was always going to take legal action once reconstruction inevitably failed. Seems to be an undercurrent on this board whereby Hearts taking this action is only happening because it's Hearts. If the league had been called with Celtic or Rangers 4 points behind the other (OK that would never have happened) or the season declared null and void and Dundee United not promoted, those clubs would be taking legal action as well. The SPFL were fully aware legal action was likely following the original vote and both they and Hearts have been preparing for this for weeks. Exactly, Hearts are taking this action because it's the only way to placate their simpleton fans. That's why they are desperately trying to get an out of court settlement, no doubt for an "undisclosed" amount that the fans can pretend is £8m and has brought the SPFL to its knees. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Gordon Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 25 minutes ago, Jackie Chiles said: A moral high ground doesn't safeguard people's jobs or placate a support. The majority of the Hearts support wanted the club to fight any demotion without a challenge, so as a soon to be fans owned club, Budge was always going to take legal action once reconstruction inevitably failed. Seems to be an undercurrent on this board whereby Hearts taking this action is only happening because it's Hearts. If the league had been called with Celtic or Rangers 4 points behind the other (OK that would never have happened) or the season declared null and void and Dundee United not promoted, those clubs would be taking legal action as well. The SPFL were fully aware legal action was likely following the original vote and both they and Hearts have been preparing for this for weeks. It pains me to to disagree with someone whose avatar is Bob Mortimer, as it feels as if I am disagreeing with Bob himself. I agree that taking a moral high ground doesn't safeguard people's jobs, but neither does requesting £8 million compensation from the other SPFL sides. If Hearts are awarded £8 million compensation, this would have a financial impact on the other SPFL clubs who are required to pay it, possibly leading to job losses at other clubs. It is a lose-lose situation either way, if jobs are lost at Hearts or any other club, regardless of team allegiance. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Day Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, Golden Gordon said: if jobs are lost at Hearts My spangle of an MP Ian Murray was bleating about "hundreds of job losses" if Hearts go down on Saturdays OtB. He hadnt considered the other side of the coin. But then he is a unionist c**t 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Chiles Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 1 hour ago, GAD said: Exactly, Hearts are taking this action because it's the only way to placate their simpleton fans. That's why they are desperately trying to get an out of court settlement, no doubt for an "undisclosed" amount that the fans can pretend is £8m and has brought the SPFL to its knees. You're kidding yourself if you think other fans wouldn't have clamoured for this in the same situation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Chiles Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Golden Gordon said: It pains me to to disagree with someone whose avatar is Bob Mortimer, as it feels as if I am disagreeing with Bob himself. I agree that taking a moral high ground doesn't safeguard people's jobs, but neither does requesting £8 million compensation from the other SPFL sides. If Hearts are awarded £8 million compensation, this would have a financial impact on the other SPFL clubs who are required to pay it, possibly leading to job losses at other clubs. It is a lose-lose situation either way, if jobs are lost at Hearts or any other club, regardless of team allegiance. It will, which is why I think the £8m figure is brinkmanship, as I can't believe that will be the award, if compensation is agreed but the threat of it may get something substantial. Hearts are being demoted to a league with less games than the Premiership and all the sympathy from other chairman isn't going to make up that financial shortfall. The best way to avoid any legal action was reconstruction as it was always coming otherwise. It was an imperfect solution to avoid this mess, well unless the Hearts and Partick case is kicked out immediately. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAD Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 10 minutes ago, Jackie Chiles said: You're kidding yourself if you think other fans wouldn't have clamoured for this in the same situation. Yeah, Hearts aren't the only club with simpleton fans. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Gordon Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Jackie Chiles said: It will, which is why I think the £8m figure is brinkmanship, as I can't believe that will be the award, if compensation is agreed but the threat of it may get something substantial. Hearts are being demoted to a league with less games than the Premiership and all the sympathy from other chairman isn't going to make up that financial shortfall. The best way to avoid any legal action was reconstruction as it was always coming otherwise. It was an imperfect solution to avoid this mess, well unless the Hearts and Partick case is kicked out immediately. Yes, but Hearts' were provided with three opportunities to come up with a proposal for reconstruction that was agreeable to the other clubs and which could have avoided the current circumstances. They failed to canvass enough support for each of these proposals and are now seeking compensation from the clubs they were unable to convince. It's a very high stakes gamble, which as you rightly point out, could have no advantage for Hearts 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 HMFC Broadcasting Corporation. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior_Arab Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 7 minutes ago, welshbairn said: HMFC Broadcasting Corporation. Should be nice & balanced... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Hopefully Levein stated that Neilson has done nothing of note since he worked for him at Hearts and that the Director of football role is still vacant... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivo den Bieman Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 High levels of delusion on BBC HeartsSound today. Big Elvis "waiting for the right offer" and dismissing loftily the prospect of taking over at Tannadice- as if he'd even be considered. A bit like the jobbing brickie who's fucked up several retaining walls waiting for a call from Barratt Homes. What next- a half hour podcast with wee Robbo explaining how gutted he is not to be considered for the job? A soft focus interview with @TEnglishSport on Hearts; the Glory Years? Embarrassing 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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