BoydiesBelly Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, wastecoatwilly said: You appear to be agreeing with me well done. Not just fans managers and players use dosh as an excuse. Do you instantly assume anyone replying to you is having a go? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoydiesBelly Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 Back on topic - great to hear the immortal words of "But first, Rangers..." come out of Kenny Macintyre's mouth tonight. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 1 hour ago, BoydiesBelly said: Back on topic - great to hear the immortal words of "But first, Rangers..." come out of Kenny Macintyre's mouth tonight. I've emailed him and explained that it's Sevco now, he won't make that mistake again. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 Celtic got more extra time to score a goal than strict liability got at the end of the program. Plus the egg chaser English tinks McGinn plays for Norwich. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 the egg chaser English tinkReported 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 10 minutes ago, topcat(The most tip top) said: Reported Front page or back. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estragon Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Ian McCall saying he doesn't EVER allow Jamie Adams to play on artificial surfaces because of the effect that it has on his joints... ...seconds before he states that he trains on astro once a week. No challenge from the rest of the panel. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ftk Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Ian McCall saying he doesn't EVER allow Jamie Adams to play on artificial surfaces because of the effect that it has on his joints... ...seconds before he states that he trains on astro once a week. No challenge from the rest of the panel.Big difference between playing a competitive match on an artificial pitch and training on it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estragon Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, ftk said: 2 hours ago, Estragon said: Ian McCall saying he doesn't EVER allow Jamie Adams to play on artificial surfaces because of the effect that it has on his joints... ...seconds before he states that he trains on astro once a week. No challenge from the rest of the panel. Big difference between playing a competitive match on an artificial pitch and training on it. In what respect? What are the main differences, and how do they relate to injuries disproportionately sustained on artificial surfaces? ETA - Please don't think I'm having a go at you, I'm honestly not. I'm totally fed up of this debate being conducted along non-medical, non-statistical lines - if you've found something I've missed I'd be interested to see it. Edited March 21, 2019 by Estragon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ftk Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 In what respect? What are the main differences, and how do they relate to injuries disproportionately sustained on artificial surfaces? ETA - Please don't think I'm having a go at you, I'm honestly not. I'm totally fed up of this debate being conducted along non-medical, non-statistical lines - if you've found something I've missed I'd be interested to see it. Training you don't need to go into tackles 100% if you don't want to. Jamie Adams has had problems with his knees for years and says his body feels far worse after playing on the 3g than grass. I'm no expert on the matter by any means and don't mind 3g pitches at all especially in the lower levels. I think most players will agree though that grass is the their preferred surface as 3g pitches are generally not as soft as grass and harder on the joints. This results in more injuries and longer time to recover after games. Don't think there is any official research or data to back this up though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 People running around on a surface that hundreds of slack-jawed morons in their profession have previously labelled (without evidence) a 'disgrace' and a 'hazard to players' health' in 'feeling worse afterwards' shock. That is down to basic psychology rather than any physiological effects. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 5 hours ago, Estragon said: Ian McCall saying he doesn't EVER allow Jamie Adams to play on artificial surfaces because of the effect that it has on his joints... ...seconds before he states that he trains on astro once a week. No challenge from the rest of the panel. Jamie Adams plays on those surfaces when it suits us. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estragon Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 2 hours ago, ftk said: I'm no expert on the matter by any means and don't mind 3g pitches at all especially in the lower levels. I think most players will agree though that grass is the their preferred surface as 3g pitches are generally not as soft as grass and harder on the joints. This results in more injuries and longer time to recover after games. Don't think there is any official research or data to back this up though. Aye I thought as much. Just wow. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennysmassiveego Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 4 hours ago, ftk said: Training you don't need to go into tackles 100% if you don't want to. Jamie Adams has had problems with his knees for years and says his body feels far worse after playing on the 3g than grass. I'm no expert on the matter by any means and don't mind 3g pitches at all especially in the lower levels. I think most players will agree though that grass is the their preferred surface as 3g pitches are generally not as soft as grass and harder on the joints. This results in more injuries and longer time to recover after games. Don't think there is any official research or data to back this up though. What he really means is that Jamie is as soft as sh!te . Or put it another way his body isn’t genetically suited to playing on such a surface , rather like some racehorses 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Didn't take Willie Miller long to start up with the 'proper qualification' chat in regards to the group stage. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alert Mongoose Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Craig Brown bringing up the genetic excuses again... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Just how many more post mortems can be conducted on the rotting corpse that is the National team? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7-2 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 34 minutes ago, Alert Mongoose said: Craig Brown Stopped reading at that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackislekillie Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Craig Brown bringing up the genetic excuses again... Jesus fucking wept. Really? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Jesus fucking wept. Really?He didn't agree it was genetic, but he pointed out that our players coming through lack the physicality compared to youths in England. They were specifically discussing den defenders at that point. I tend to agree that physicality is an issue, but more towards strength and fitness rather than height. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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