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gazelle

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So just how important is democracy? Should we decide who runs our country and all aspects of it or should we allow people from another country with different interests to?

I've come to the conclusion that its the only thing that really matters.

Nothing is going to happen that is so drastic that its going to, significantly, affect our day to day lives or the overall economy. What currency we use, how much oil is left and all the other, so-called, important questions are fairly irrelevant.

The only question is do we want to govern ourselves or do we want to continue to be governed by Westminster.

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Its dead easy - democratically Scotland has been content to be part of the UK and when it democratically voted to have a referendum on the continuation (or not) this was delivered. If we democratically decide to keep the current system then that is democracy in action, it really is that easy.

The democratic deficit is the SNP led Scottish Government proposing to have a mandate post a yes to implement policies that were never part of the remit of their election mandate which was strictly in terms of powers devolved to Scotland.

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Its dead easy - democratically Scotland has been content to be part of the UK and when it democratically voted to have a referendum on the continuation (or not) this was delivered. If we democratically decide to keep the current system then that is democracy in action, it really is that easy.

The democratic deficit is the SNP led Scottish Government proposing to have a mandate post a yes to implement policies that were never part of the remit of their election mandate which was strictly in terms of powers devolved to Scotland.

Can someone translate this?

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Its dead easy - democratically Scotland has been content to be part of the UK and when it democratically voted to have a referendum on the continuation (or not) this was delivered. If we democratically decide to keep the current system then that is democracy in action, it really is that easy.

The democratic deficit is the SNP led Scottish Government proposing to have a mandate post a yes to implement policies that were never part of the remit of their election mandate which was strictly in terms of powers devolved to Scotland.

I can kind of see where you are coming from with this but in the end it is failed logic.

The democratic mandate for the current Scottish government to negotiate terms of independence will come direct from the people in the referendum. We are voting for them to negotiate based on the principles expressed within the white paper.

After negotiations are concluded it is important to have an election as quickly as possible.

A boon for all the Salmond loathers. An opportunity to turf him out of office at the height of his political career. It would be like Churchill and Atlee.

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No other party is limited to their election manifesto should they gain power apart from the SNP, apparently.

Its not about the content of their manifesto; its about the context of their election taking place in respect only of the powers devolved to Scotland - nothing else; and the referendum being simply a yes or no to independence with no reference or mandate being made by the people in respect of any party, manifesto or white paper.

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The only question is do we want to govern ourselves or do we want to continue to be governed by Westminster.

I really wish we'd stop working with this false equivalence. It also makes assumptions we shouldn't take for granted.

The alternative is not "govern ourselves or be governed by Westminster".

The choice must either be understood as:

1. Be governed by Holyrood only or be governed by a mixture of Holyrood and Westminster

Or:

2. Decide that "we" should be Scotland for all purposes of statehood and subsidiary governance or that "we" are Scotland for some purposes and Britain for others.

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I really wish we'd stop working with this false equivalence. It also makes assumptions we shouldn't take for granted.

The alternative is not "govern ourselves or be governed by Westminster".

The choice must either be understood as:

1. Be governed by Holyrood only or be governed by a mixture of Holyrood and Westminster

Or:

2. Decide that "we" should be Scotland for all purposes of statehood and subsidiary governance or that "we" are Scotland for some purposes and Britain for others.

Your Scottish party leader sees a flaw in this logic

And he's right, there would be nothing we could do about it

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