Hoofhearted Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Stirling and WW at 5/1 look the best value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citylegend Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Good win today at vale if a was a betting man a would have my mortgage on vale going down very poor team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeto Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 The Lowland League is a total headscratcher for me. I've heard of all the teams but some of them are virtually new startups and it will be interesting to see what kind of backing they get with the potential of getting into the league next season. Although you'd imagine the likes of Spartans and Whitehill Welfare will be amongst the big guns, the likes of East Kilbride, Edinburgh City and Broomhill could potentially end up being threats because of their pretty big catchment areas. Those three might not be up to taking on the big two right away but you'd imagine they'd be in the chase within a couple of years. Spartans seem the most likely to win though and two in a row seems like a fairly big possibility for them. The Lowland League looks like it could potentially end up very lopsided if the big city / town teams get a solid following and the village / little town teams get 2 men and a dog for their home gates. It will be interesting to see what will happen to the league maybe three to five years down the road if a couple of established names end up going down. It might be similar but obviously on a different level to Rangers, Hearts and Hibs all ending up in the Championship. The Conference in England has become fairly strong through having a couple of established names going down to that level and maybe a couple of relative big names landing in the Lowland League would give it a far higher profile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 It is interesting that you mention the size of places. These are the populations of the teams in the LL this season (taken from SCROL for 2001 as I don't think 2011 is online yet). Obviously some teams draw their support from a broader district or county, not just the town itself. Glasgow - 629,501 BSCG Edinburgh - 430,082 Spartans & Edinburgh City East Kilbride - 73,796 (University of Edinburgh - student roll 32,591) Galashiels - 14,361 (Stirling University - student roll 11,500) Prestonpans - 7,153 Selkirk - 5,742 Dalbeattie - 4,289 Castle Douglas - 3,671 Gretna - 2,705 Innerleithen - 2,586 Rosewell - 1,120 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel hutz Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 It is interesting that you mention the size of places. These are the populations of the teams in the LL this season (taken from SCROL for 2001 as I don't think 2011 is online yet). Obviously some teams draw their support from a broader district or county, not just the town itself. http://www.scotlandscensus.gov.uk/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcastle broon Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 ImageUploadedByPie & Bovril1406807727.847220.jpg Latest Spartans 6/4 ww ed city 4/1 ek 6/1 Gretna 14/1 dalb star selkirk 16/1 uni o stirling 20/1 Gala 33/1 Bsc 66/1 Vale threave Preston ed uni 100/1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surely not! Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Thought selkirk would be shorter. Mickeys blog would suggest he'll be happy to be considered with city but EK at 6/1 look best value. Still the ' galacticos' at Ainslie Park to beat tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky85 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Latest Spartans 6/4ww ed city 4/1ek 6/1Gretna 14/1dalb star selkirk 16/1uni o stirling 20/1Gala 33/1Bsc 66/1Vale threave Preston ed uni 100/1 EK best team I've seen so far, although will see the galacticos 1st hand on sat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nocko Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Here are the latest odds from William Hill Every Lowland League match is also priced up and available in every William Hill branch LOWLAND LEAGUEEdinburgh City 9/4Spartans 9/4Whitehill Welfare 4/1East Kilbride 9/2Dalbeattie Star 16/1Selkirk 16/1Gretna 2008 20/1Stirling University 25/1Gala Fairydean 33/1Edinburgh Uni 50/1BSC Glasgow 66/1Vale of Leithen 66/1Preston Athletic 150/1Threave Rovers 150/1Each Way 1/5 1-2-3William Hill Support Responsible GamblingYou must be 18 or over to Gamblewww.gambleaware.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Here are the latest odds from William Hill Every Lowland League match is also priced up and available in every William Hill branch LOWLAND LEAGUE Edinburgh City 9/4 Spartans 9/4 Whitehill Welfare 4/1 East Kilbride 9/2 Dalbeattie Star 16/1 Selkirk 16/1 Gretna 2008 20/1 Stirling University 25/1 Gala Fairydean 33/1 Edinburgh Uni 50/1 BSC Glasgow 66/1 Vale of Leithen 66/1 Preston Athletic 150/1 Threave Rovers 150/1 Each Way 1/5 1-2-3 William Hill Support Responsible Gambling You must be 18 or over to Gamble www.gambleaware.co.uk Gretna at 20/1 and Spartans 9/4. Not from what I saw on Saturday. If I was a gambler in the real world I would be very tempted with at least an each way bet on Gretna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dillinger Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 If you do Cicero bet with William Hill at 20/1. We are only 7/1 with Mcbookie. Don't think W.H. Know about our famous victory over Spartans yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surely not! Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 If you do Cicero bet with William Hill at 20/1. We are only 7/1 with Mcbookie. Don't think W.H. Know about our famous victory over Spartans yet! A 'famous victory' is not what title contenders do at home to a rival. It's what teams at the bottom of the league do against contenders. So either your not contenders or it shouldn't go down as a ' famous' win. Which is it Gretna fans? Personally think it's the latter. Genuine contenders- with about seven others by the look of it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 My point was that the odds tend to suggest that there is a big gap between the teams, which I believe is not the case. I think 20/1 is a steal especially an each way bet. As for the famous win. I think that it is our first league victory over Spartans. I seem to remember a 5-1(???) win at Raydale a few years back but I am sure that was a cup game. Since it is our first league win against them, I think the 'famous' tag can be justified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surely not! Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 My point was that the odds tend to suggest that there is a big gap between the teams, which I believe is not the case. I think 20/1 is a steal especially an each way bet. As for the famous win. I think that it is our first league victory over Spartans. I seem to remember a 5-1(???) win at Raydale a few years back but I am sure that was a cup game. Since it is our first league win against them, I think the 'famous' tag can be justified. The odds only reflect the bookies idea of teams winning the thing. What odds are man city and stoke? ( sorry grim!) See your point but for your teams sake I hope the players don't see it as that and rest on their laurels. Everything in place at raydale for a title push. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcastle broon Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 If you do Cicero bet with William Hill at 20/1.We are only 7/1 with Mcbookie.Don't think W.H. Know about our famous victory over Spartans yet! My point was that the odds tend to suggest that there is a big gap between the teams, which I believe is not the case. I think 20/1 is a steal especially an each way bet. As for the famous win. I think that it is our first league victory over Spartans. I seem to remember a 5-1(???) win at Raydale a few years back but I am sure that was a cup game. Since it is our first league win against them, I think the 'famous' tag can be justified.Lads lads lads 2 good results dont make a season though 20/1 is a bit on the high side :DAs surely pointed out there s quite a few teams out there who could easily be top 3.ww nae value city far too short now ek and Gretna look best value. Long long way to go ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dillinger Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Whitehill at 4/1 looks good. Most certainly Gretna E/W at 20/1 has to be a gift. Don't know if Ladbrooks gives prices, I have an account with them. Need to check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim O'Grady Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 I reckon e-City are the LL's answer to Swansea City, riding high end of Aug begining of September but they'll be warm & cost by Christmas surrounded by everyone else. Grimbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surely not! Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Think your probably right grim. There's always at least one that surprises- it was vale last but think they finished 6th or 7th. While we're comparing teams, does this make spartans Blackburn rovers grim? The season after they won it then finished mid table...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 As for the famous win. I think that it is our first league victory over Spartans. I seem to remember a 5-1(???) win at Raydale a few years back but I am sure that was a cup game. Roughly... 2009-10... South Challenge Cup... Final... Gretna 1-3 Spartans 2011-12... EOS League Premier Division... Gretna 1-5 Spartans 2011-12... EOS League Premier Division... Spartans 2-0 Gretna 2011-12... EOS Qualifying Cup... Round 2... Gretna 4-2 Spartans 2012-13... EOS League Premier Division... Gretna 0-0 Spartans 2012-13... EOS League Premier Division... Spartans 4-0 Gretna 2013-14... Lowland League... Gretna 0-3 Spartans 2013-14... Lowland League... Spartans 4-0 Gretna 2013-14... EOS Qualifying Cup... Round 2... Spartans 2-0 Gretna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Roughly... 2009-10... South Challenge Cup... Final... Gretna 1-3 Spartans 2011-12... EOS League Premier Division... Gretna 1-5 Spartans 2011-12... EOS League Premier Division... Spartans 2-0 Gretna 2011-12... EOS Qualifying Cup... Round 2... Gretna 4-2 Spartans 2012-13... EOS League Premier Division... Gretna 0-0 Spartans 2012-13... EOS League Premier Division... Spartans 4-0 Gretna 2013-14... Lowland League... Gretna 0-3 Spartans 2013-14... Lowland League... Spartans 4-0 Gretna 2013-14... EOS Qualifying Cup... Round 2... Spartans 2-0 Gretna Thanks HJ. Funny how the passage of time makes good performances even better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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