Mr Bairn Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Not a serious thread but I found this pretty funny http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_Jacobite_Party Some of its other views included moving the Scottish and English border southwards to run from Morecambe Bay to Flamborough Head along latitude 54 degrees, 7 minutes North (thus adding Carlisle, Durham, Sunderland, Teesside and Tyneside to Scotland). In consequence, Newcastle United F.C., Sunderland A.F.C., Middlesbrough F.C. and Carlisle United F.C. would be transferred into theScottish Premier League, It advocated that all football teams in this league should be nationalised, with television revenues being split equally amongst all participating clubs. Foreign players would also be banned from playing in Scotland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casual Bystander Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Ironic considering the Jacobites were generally unionists, namely looking to get the Stuart lineage onto the combined thrones of England, Scotland and Wales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Ironic considering the Jacobites were generally unionists, namely looking to get the Stewart lineage onto the combined thrones of England, Scotland and Wales. They were hardly "more unionist" than William of Orange, pal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casual Bystander Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 They were hardly "more unionist" than William of Orange, pal. You would start an argument in an empty room. Are we playing "Unionist top trumps" here? James II (or VII, whichever way you cut it) was a king that ruled over the kingdoms of Scotland, England and Wales and whom the Jacobites wished returned to power. It's safe to say that he was a unionist, albeit the Act of Union was some years away. As for "pal" that's just... well... weird. Are you trying to sound aggressive or sardonic. Either way you've failed with both, you've just ended up looking a bit of an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted July 16, 2014 Author Share Posted July 16, 2014 And thread jacked within 3 posts. Brilliant. This is supposed to a joke thread based on the idea of an SPL with those English teams in it and no foreigners allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casual Bystander Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 And thread jacked within 3 posts. Brilliant. This is supposed to a joke thread based on the idea of an SPL with those English teams in it and no foreigners allowed. Blame the idiot, I was merely pointing out the irony that a party supporting independence has taken the name of a group of people supporting a union king. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 You would start an argument in an empty room. Are we playing "Unionist top trumps" here? James II (or VII, whichever way you cut it) was a king that ruled over the kingdoms of Scotland, England and Wales and whom the Jacobites wished returned to power. It's safe to say that he was a unionist, albeit the Act of Union was some years away. As for "pal" that's just... well... weird. Are you trying to sound aggressive or sardonic. Either way you've failed with both, you've just ended up looking a bit of an idiot. My point was your use of "ironic" was stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casual Bystander Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 My point was your use of "ironic" was stupid. Subjective nonsense. You have tried to be smart, only to fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Mr Bairn and Ad Lib are yes voters btw. ... ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted July 17, 2014 Author Share Posted July 17, 2014 This is a joke thread Dom, where did I even make No-friendly comments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever_blue Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 , you've just ended up looking a bit of an idiot. och well it would take one to know one i suppose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Subjective nonsense. You have tried to be smart, only to fail. The Jacobites were less Unionist than the people they fought against. This is undeniable. They were concerned only with the restoration of the Catholic line to the three Crowns of distinct Kingdoms. They were not party to or supportive of the efforts to bring Scotland, England and Ireland into political union. They were no more "unionists" than Alex Salmond is because he wants to keep the Queen the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MassiveFanDan Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 A good few years ago now, I knew a hardcore Celtic man who supported independence simply as a way to keep Rangers out of the EPL. There's no longer any danger on that front, and since this guy was a bit of a roaster, I have a feeling he will have lapsed back into laughable Galloway-esque Green Unionism by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MassiveFanDan Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Cherlie wis a unionist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casual Bystander Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 The Jacobites were less Unionist than the people they fought against. Jesus, what a mess you are making of this. All because you are trying to defend a put down you got wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Jesus, what a mess you are making of this. All because you are trying to defend a put down you got wrong. Unless you believe that Alex Salmond is a Unionist because he proposes to keep the Union of the Crowns, the Jacobites were not Unionists. It's that simple really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casual Bystander Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 It's that simple really. This is you, right now.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tryfield Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 That was fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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