Barrfields_Largs Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 That happens now, pal, just in a different way. Man City, PSG and Monaco will show that. The difference is these clubs are actually spending money on the infrastructure at the club and improving safety, comfort for supporters and a legacy for the future. I for one think that is to be commended. No it doesn't happen, hence why Man United aren't competing this year. How much actual money would it take? I dare say our euro millions winners have the cash to pay to obtain our license, and you'd be absolutely fizzing and I wouldn't blame you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clash city rocker Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Barr_L has a point in that Bo'Ness,Talbot are representing the juniors but Lithgae,BoD are erm...representing themselves haha. If Yoker got Holm Park up to standard would Clydebank also be entitled to enter the Scottish....if they should wish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbaxters Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 No it doesn't happen, hence why Man United aren't competing this year. How much actual money would it take? I dare say our euro millions winners have the cash to pay to obtain our license, and you'd be absolutely fizzing and I wouldn't blame you Junior clubs who are serious about improving should see licensed status as a goal. Simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbaxters Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Barr_L has a point in that Bo'Ness,Talbot are representing the juniors but Lithgae,BoD are erm...representing themselves haha. If Yoker got Holm Park up to standard would Clydebank also be entitled to enter the Scottish....if they should wish. Obviously not as it's not their park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrfields_Largs Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Barr_L has a point in that Bo'Ness,Talbot are representing the juniors but Lithgae,BoD are erm...representing themselves haha. If Yoker got Holm Park up to standard would Clydebank also be entitled to enter the Scottish....if they should wish. That's exactly my point. Fair play to them for wanting to play in the cup and putting the effort in to obtain the license, but they certainly aren't representing the juniors and therefore done deserve even the tiniest bit of our support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbaxters Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Aye it's much better to keep the spirit of the Juniors even if it includes lifting wheelchairs up steps, peeing against a wall outdoors and up to your oxters in muck. Mon the Juniors! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrfields_Largs Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Aye it's much better to keep the spirit of the Juniors even if it includes lifting wheelchairs up steps, peeing against a wall outdoors and up to your oxters in muck. Mon the Juniors! You've totally missed the point as usual you absolute space cadet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 I hate clubs investing in facilities and having good off-field standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbaxters Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 You've totally missed the point as usual you absolute space cadet Explain it to me then, Plato. You've missed the point. The top clubs are trying to improve the grade. Not for selfish reasons such as Scottish Cup entry, although that's a very nice bonus of course, but even if they are, those who visit the ground benefit by watching their football in a better environment. That's good for the grade. Oh, and gie the name calling a bye, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clash city rocker Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Obviously not as it's not their park. Only asking. The SanSiro does not belong to either Inter or Milan but it has a Uefa license. Can a club be licensed without the ground being up to scratch,can a ground be up to standard but the club not up to standard ?. Why does a club need it's own ground to be licensed ?.What about Greenock,surely their ground is ok ?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbaxters Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Only asking. The SanSiro does not belong to either Inter or Milan but it has a Uefa license. Can a club be licensed without the ground being up to scratch,can a ground be up to standard but the club not up to standard ?. Why does a club need it's own ground to be licensed ?.What about Greenock,surely their ground is ok ?. Don't know the answers to all those questions, pal. I would be sure that the facilities are a lot to do with the criteria though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wile E Coyote Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Junior clubs who are serious about improving should see licensed status as a goal. Simple. Not that simple any more. The rules have been changed so to get licensed now you "have to show an interest in joining the pyramid" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Yes. It's a senior competition and until there's a nationwide pyramid junior clubs should only compete when they've earned the right by actually winning a football competition. The whole licensing thing will just mean our most financially secure clubs will end up competing in the senior cup regardless of what they win, which will lead to them strengthening their financial grip and could suffocate the junior game And both Rose and Banks o'Dee are now Senior clubs. (And still Juniors, too). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Only asking. The SanSiro does not belong to either Inter or Milan but it has a Uefa license. Can a club be licensed without the ground being up to scratch,can a ground be up to standard but the club not up to standard ?. Why does a club need it's own ground to be licensed ?.What about Greenock,surely their ground is ok ?. A club can't be licenced unless the ground they play from is up to standard. Yes a ground can be up to standard but the club playing from it not licensed. Clubs don't need their own ground to be licensed. The ground is only part of licensing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 If Yoker got Holm Park up to standard would Clydebank also be entitled to enter the Scottish....if they should wish. Yes, provided they met all the off-field requirements (ground criteria is only one aspect of licensing) - and had whatever primacy of use was required if Yoker weren't. Obviously not as it's not their park. Incorrect. East Stirlingshire are tenants of Stenhousemuir, and licenced. A few SPFL, HL and LL clubs don't own their own grounds. Can a club be licensed without the ground being up to scratch No. can a ground be up to standard but the club not up to standard ? Yes. Why does a club need it's own ground to be licensed ? It doesn't (see above). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dug Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 I'm sure they will, but one of the major perks of winning your league/Scottish cup is surely the opportunity to compete in the senior cup and earn money and build your club? What if the champions league added a "champions league license" where clubs like Man Utd could just waltz in because they've thrown enough money at it ETA: you'd no doubt change your tune should Linlithgow eliminate you from the competition and are rewarded with an away tie at Celtic Park or Ibrox Are you not arguing against yourself here? Linlithgow have done well in the league and cup in recent years and so have earned the perk of entering the Senior Scottish to earn money to build their club....money which they used to...erm, build the club infrastructure and facilities, money put into administration and community links. By doing so they have reached the standard to achieve a licence, which earns them the right to enter the Senior Scottish to earn money to....erm, build the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrfields_Largs Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Are you not arguing against yourself here? Linlithgow have done well in the league and cup in recent years and so have earned the perk of entering the Senior Scottish to earn money to build their club....money which they used to...erm, build the club infrastructure and facilities, money put into administration and community links. By doing so they have reached the standard to achieve a licence, which earns them the right to enter the Senior Scottish to earn money to....erm, build the club. Nope. By all means invest in the facilities etc, and if it's because you want a place in the senior cup so be it. But when you play in that competition you are not representing the juniors, as you've not earned the right to be representing junior football. As Clash said, your only representing yourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dug Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 So how do you define building the club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dug Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 And you're right we are not representing the Juniors, we are exercising our right as a member of the SFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dug Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 It 's actually an interesting question...what should we have done with the money earned from winning the leagues and cups and senior Scottish in recent years instead of improving the ground; facilities for players, staff and spectators; forging strong community links and sorting the administration out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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