1320Lichtie Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Think people are vastly over estimating the importance of these debates. The reality is most people won't watch, and most of those that do will have made up their mind long ago and won't be for changing. Think people are vastly over estimating how much the Scottish people have actually looked into anything to do with the referendum. A handful of my friends will be watching this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotbawmad Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 I expect Salmond to win the debate, but winning it wouldn't be good enough, because it needs to be an annihilation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 I dip in and out of the independence debate so perhaps I'm missing something but I just find it staggering that Alistair Darling is the face of the No campaign He isn't. He was replaced some time ago. It was on Wings over Scotland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Think people are vastly over estimating how much the Scottish people have actually looked into anything to do with the referendum. A handful of my friends will be watching this. I agree with your first point. The average Scottish person has paid virtually no attention to the debate, and that's simply not going to change in the next 5 weeks. It will be interesting to compare viewing figures of this debate and the match between two of the nations biggest football clubs, the Rangers and Hibs, which is being broadcast live at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geronimo Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 05/08/2014 - The day Alistair Darling's political career came to an abrupt end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 It will be interesting to compare viewing figures of this debate and the match between two of the nations biggest football clubs, the Rangers and Hibs, which is being broadcast live at the same time. That's a very good point. Swathes of No voters otherwise engaged. These are YOUR people, Lex. Or should that be peepul? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taza Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Wife will be leaving for the debate soon. Anyone wanting a question posed to Darling, now's the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Wife will be leaving for the debate soon. Anyone wanting a question posed to Darling, now's the time. Nothing fit for family consumption, I'm afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tio Pepe Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Rather glad to be missing this. One of the most arrogant, smarmy characters I have had the 'pleasure' of meeting debating with someone who has personality traits akin to a slice of toast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaven Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 05/08/2014 - The day Alistair Darling's political career came to an abrupt end. When he flung himself off the sixth floor balcony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaven Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Wife will be leaving for the debate soon. Anyone wanting a question posed to Darling, now's the time. What's with the eye brows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Didn't he also say that a lot of the costs after the immediate period were to do with computer systems costs ? Costs that we would have to pay anyway under the union ? I'm sure he said these costs would be comparable to the costs we would bear in a future UK anyway. Yes, there are costs associated with running any government department and he included those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 My particular favourite example in this regard is when SNP types use Professor Crawford's opinion on timescale of concluding negotiations in their sales pitches.... (something he isn't an expert in) in the same breath which they call his legal advice (which he is an expert in) arrogant and colonial. It's almost admirable in its brass neck. Do they, aye? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dryhorce Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Frost V Nixon will have nothing on this.Darling is going to squirm and answers questions with questions devoid of any real substance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Frost V Nixon will have nothing on this.Darling is going to squirm and answers questions with questions devoid of any real substance You know the difference between an interview and a debate? The reality is both sides will claim their man won. Nothing will be said that hasn't been said already, most people won't watch, and it will have next to no effect on next months result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 You know the difference between an interview and a debate? The reality is both sides will claim their man won. Nothing will be said that hasn't been said already, most people won't watch, and it will have next to no effect on next months result. American presidential elections have taught us that the politicians have a set routine that they cling to for dear life. They're prepped beyond belief and each accusation is batted away smoothly and followed up by a well-prepared counter-attack. But every now and then, something different happens. Superior intellect and force of argument wins through and a blow is laid that knocks a competitor off guard. From there, if panic sets in and the mind is scrambled - a politician's career can lie in tatters. Every now and then (or have I been watching too much of the West Wing?)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob72 Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Think people are vastly over estimating the importance of these debates. The reality is most people won't watch, and most of those that do will have made up their mind long ago and won't be for changing. IIRC didn't Nick Clegg come out on top in the GE2010 TV debates. Despite both Brown and Cameron doing their best to brown nose him at the lectern, it didn't exactly do much for him or his party further down the line!? In a quick poll out on the streets this afternoon... 48% Said they wouldn't be watching tonight 40% Said they would be watching tonight 12% Said they didn't know whether they wouldn't be watching or would be watching tonight. Cant see there being many DK's who will be swayed tonight whatever the outcome. Most sitting down for an evening's thrilling debate between the biggest mealy-mouthed politician you have ever met, against one of the most boring & uninispiring will have already made their mind up, Yes and No respectively. Bring on the Smugfest, glad I'm away oot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 That's 3 No voters I've counted that aren't going to watch the debate yet come on these forums to argue their side's case. Hmmm... Can we stick Ignorance down as one of the reasons for voting No? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob72 Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 That's 3 No voters I've counted that aren't going to watch the debate yet come on these forums to argue their side's case. Hmmm... Can we stick Ignorance down as one of the reasons for voting No? I'm away to the football mate, tough choice I know !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkoRaj Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 That's 3 No voters I've counted that aren't going to watch the debate yet come on these forums to argue their side's case. Hmmm... Can we stick Ignorance down as one of the reasons for voting No? Tbh I'm not watching to get informed, just in hope that salmond slaughters him. If you already know which way you're voting this won't change your mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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