ham89 Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 First Minister Alex Salmond has agreed to a live TV debate with Better Together leader Alistair Darling. Both politicians were invited to take part in an STV programme on 16 July, Mr Salmond said he would continue to push for Prime Minister David Cameron to debate him over independence, but he has offered to take on Alistair Darling after the Commonwealth Games. Better Together campaign director Blair McDougall said it was a welcome development. STV wrote to both campaigns proposing a plan for a live two-hour debate. It would be broadcast from Edinburgh, hosted by STV's political editor Bernard Ponsonby, and attended by 500 members of the public representing both sides of the debate as well as undecided voters. A spokesman for Mr Salmond said: "We will continue to pursue David Cameron to agree to the 16 July debate with the first minister. "If he continues to duck from it - the first minister will take on Alistair Darling shortly after the Commonwealth Games." Mr McDougall said: "People in Scotland deserve a TV debate between the leaders of both campaigns about the big issues in this referendum, like what would happen to our pound, pensions and public services." The prime minister has previously said the debate should be "between people in Scotland". Alistair Darling has the personality of a soggy potato. The master of debating Vs. a man who cant co-ordinate his eyebrows with his hair. This will only go one way and can only be a good thing for the Nats. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
git-intae-thum Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 I think Salmond has just called his bluff. After he destroys Darling, the calls for Cameron to debate will very strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForzaDundee Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 The date is good for the Yes campaign. Salmond will bitchslap Darling and we'll have two months of more calls for Cameron to get more involved. Of course Better Together won't let Salmond get anywhere near Cameron but everyone will know that all the momentum is with yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denny_Different Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 The complacency and emptiness inherent of the No campaign has become such a problem that a re-launch of the re-launch is coming The reliance on abstract concepts which bear little to the realities of a devolved Scotland in the UK and the appeal to the middle-class propertied niceties have undermined its claims to such an extent that the No campaign has little room to turn. Such was its confidence. I expect very large viewing figures and a swing to the Yes vote. This may be the final piece in the jigsaw for many in moving from undecided to Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 This couldn't be any more one sided if Auchinleck Talbot played the current Dutch national team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Darlings bluff has been called Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinkinFighter Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 If Darling has any sense he'll come up with an excuse pronto. This could backfire big time for the No side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 This couldn't be any more one sided if Auchinleck Talbot played the current Dutch national team. Home or away? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Salmond will comfortably win this debate, he's a far superior debater and politician than Darling. Can't see it making much difference to the result though, the issues at hand are too strong for many people to be influenced by a couple of guys debating skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 How much is Darling get paid for this one? Better Together is already painting this as Salmond blinking first. As I see it, Salmond will be able to make huge capital on the fact that he is debating with the monkey, not the organ grinder. Darling can promise nothing and deliver nothing. If Salmond gets him angry enough he will blink himself into a fury and implode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Danny lets a huge sight of relief Danny Alexander @dannyalexander 8h At long last, Alex Salmond has accepted that he must come out of hiding to debate with Alastair Darling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweeperDee Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Danny lets a huge sight of relief Danny Alexander @dannyalexander 8h At long last, Alex Salmond has accepted that he must come out of hiding to debate with Alastair Darling :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 This is going to be ugly for the no campaign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broccoli Dog Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Is this debate number 2? debaters to be confirmed. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-27966132 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La_Leyenda Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Is this debate number 2? debaters to be confirmed. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-27966132 Hopefully not John Swinney or Blair Jenkins - I don't think either have been that convincing in any debate I've seen them in. Patrick Harvie has been impressive, and I think is also the politician most likely to appeal to 16 and 17 year olds too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 How much is Darling get paid for this one? Better Together is already painting this as Salmond blinking first. As I see it, Salmond will be able to make huge capital on the fact that he is debating with the monkey, not the organ grinder. Darling can promise nothing and deliver nothing. If Salmond gets him angry enough he will blink himself into a fury and implode. He'll certainly not blink more than Darling, I've never witnessed a politician with a more pronounced tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Home or away? Away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burma Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Darling is fucked. How is he going to get out of this one? Career suicide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Salmond will comfortably win this debate, he's a far superior debater and politician than Darling. Can't see it making much difference to the result though, the issues at hand are too strong for many people to be influenced by a couple of guys debating skills. Sadly, I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Brian Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Whatever happens with this the only thing I think we all agree upon is that it doesn't turn into the shitfest that Sturgeon/Lamont turned into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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