Raidernation Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 3 pts for a win 1 pt for any draw 0 pts for a loss Exceptions 1 pt for a win for either OF team: 0 pts for an OF team draw (other team still gets 1): -2 pts if the bigot brother team loses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somecallmetim Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 3 pts for a win 1 pt for any draw 0 pts for a loss Exceptions 1 pt for a win for either OF team: 0 pts for an OF team draw (other team still gets 1): -2 pts if the bigot brother team loses. That seems fair :-$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertie Bassett Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Forget the whole points scenario; whoever scores the most goals over the season wins & whoever scores the least finishes last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Current system but with a bonus point for three goals or more is all it needs. That said, zero points each for a 0-0 could be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgruntledegg Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 No draws all 3 points goes to the team with most shots on target, encourages teams to get forward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuggie_Murray7 Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 I'd go: 3 for a win 1 for a draw 0 for a defeat 1/2 for every goal scored 1/4 for everytime you hit the woodwork. 1/8 for every corner -3 When you loose to the team at the bottom of the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Koop Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 Why 0 points for a home team in a 0-0? That would just encourage away teams to park the bus. Unless it's a McGill's bus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Koop Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 How about we just adopt the Americans no such thing as an even game in sport. Keep playing "Over Time" until someone wins but keep penalty shootouts for knock-out competitions so it doesn't drag on too long. They gave up on that in MLS about a decade ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimplyTON Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 What about something akin to the Fifa rankings? Everyone loves them Points are multiplied by a variable based on league position so a win for the 7th placed team versus 1st place would be worth more than win for 7th v 9th Throw goals into the equation and you have everyone gunning for the team at the top - what not to like about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RabidAl Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 The league cup bonus point is an interesting addition since it does give the weaker teams a chance to accrue more points than the current 3/1/0 system used in the league, but the extra point isn't earned and it is a bit gimmicky... ...the league should go back to plain, steady 2 points for a win, 1 for a draw, and 0 for a defeat - which would balance the rewards for the outcome of a match more fairly. Since teams that are significantly better will win anyway, it's not necessary to offer them any additional incentive by awarding them an extra point for a win. It simply exaggerates their advantage in the league table unnecessarily. With the 3/1/0 system, much of the focus seems to be on avoiding 'dropping points' by losing or even by drawing1; with the 2/1/0 system a draw is more fairly rewarded, becomes a better result, and the focus moves to building unbeaten runs2. By going back to 2 points for a win, and taking off any added pressure to achieve a win, there would be less of a frenzy to achieve a win than at the moment (when even a draw is usually seen as a bad result). This might create a bit more breathing space for teams to develop players and to develop more attractive styles of play. It would also give tighter, more compact league tables that should add to the competitiveness of the leagues. Clearly, part of what I'm about here is to find a legitimate and fair way to rein in the old firm, lest we are in for a further twenty-odd years of 20+ point, SPL-era winning margins. 1A draw means dropping 67% of points available to a team for a match at present; this would only be a 50% drop in a 2/1/0 system, making not winning less of a disaster. 2A further 33% of points are dropped with defeat in the current system, so drawing isn't much better than a defeat; a further 50% of points are dropped in the 2/1/0 system, making not losing more important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmothecat Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Anything which encourages draws and disincentivises teams to go for wins is surely a bad thing, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 It's been oft-debated whether 3pts for a win actually encouraged (or still encourages) more exciting football and less acceptance of draws, but they won't change it back now. If you're motivation is a kind of "symmetry" in the points made available then I suppose the LC sections system is arguably good, as 3pts are allocated whether a game is won - 3/0 - or drawn - 2/1. However, as I have noted in the Domestic Cup sub-forum, it remains to be seen if the LC bonus point system will actually make any difference. Going into the last day Dundee United are the only club for whom bonus points are making any difference - in terms of position in their group or placement in the runners-up's rankings - and they may not be come Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Should be three points for a win, one for a defeat and none for a draw. That way you would have both teams trying to score at either end in the closing stages if the scores were level. Dead exciting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmothecat Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 It's been oft-debated whether 3pts for a win actually encouraged (or still encourages) more exciting football and less acceptance of draws, but they won't change it back now. If you're motivation is a kind of "symmetry" in the points made available then I suppose the LC sections system is arguably good, as 3pts are allocated whether a game is won - 3/0 - or drawn - 2/1. However, as I have noted in the Domestic Cup sub-forum, it remains to be seen if the LC bonus point system will actually make any difference. Going into the last day Dundee United are the only club for whom bonus points are making any difference - in terms of position in their group or placement in the runners-up's rankings - and they may not be come Sunday. Though that's across very few games therefore very few draws. It would be interesting to see it played across a season.I quite like the idea, though I get the impression I'm in the minority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmothecat Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Should be three points for a win, one for a defeat and none for a draw. That way you would have both teams trying to score at either end in the closing stages if the scores were level. Dead exciting. I love this idea. Teams in the third minute of injury time scoring an own goal, but then it's a completely different dynamic for a 'six pointer' where the three points for the other team harms you more than the benefit of the one point you would get for losing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardinal Richelieu Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 It would certainly shake things a tad, although it might end up in a situation like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbados_4–2_Grenada_(1994_Caribbean_Cup_qualification) (basically, due to a bizarre rule where goals in extra time counted double). So you had the farcical situation of a team trying to score an own goal to force extra time - they needed a 2 goal margin to qualify. And then both teams ended up their opponent's goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54_and_counting Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 5 hours ago, Bully Di Villa said: Should be three points for a win, one for a defeat and none for a draw. That way you would have both teams trying to score at either end in the closing stages if the scores were level. Dead exciting. f**k that, its hard enough getting a fixed odds coupon up now nevermind when teams are chucking goals in at their own end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Some absolutely moronic suggestions in this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfha Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 In the 1970s, the Yanks had a stupid idea of having 6 pts for a win, but in the event of a draw the winners of a shoot out winning 1 point, Also you gained a point for every goal you scored (up to 3). How we laughed at their stupidity........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RabidAl Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 It's fair simply to earn a single point for not losing, and then an additional point for actually going on to win a match. All the third point does is space out the league table unnecessarily, making it less interesting, often more polarised, and so more of a turn off for punters. The only exception, maybe, would be to have a bonus point for beating a team that is ranked above you in the league table. So 2 points for a win against a team below you in the table, and 3 points for beating a team above you in the table. At least that would rate a win according to its difficulty, and so would be a fair reward for beating a team that is supposedly better. The best teams would still be winning more matches and so would be doing better in the league, but it could keep things tighter at the top and bottom for the duration of the season by adding a sort of elasticity to prevent things getting too polarised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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