edinbugercowden Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Danny Lennon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Don't think there is such a thing as a 'safe appointment' in management nowadays. Always a bit of a risk in some aspect. Murray is definitely too much of a risk... leave him alone. Yes well OK, but you know what I mean though, there are safer appointments than others and there are riskier appointments than others. Murray could be a Hartley (although he currently has less experience and has never won promotion), or he couldn't be, and we don't need another failed appointment. A huge task awaits to completely populate a squad and create a pre-season program in a matter of days and weeks, then lead them up to promotion with Rangers, Hearts and Falkirk awaiting in a division with 1 promotion slot and 1 inter-divisional playoff. Big ask, hence inexperience troubles me. I'm not sure his Hibs background counts for much either in terms of achieving results on the pitch (obviously it'd be of huge help in making fans happy - at the beginning anyway). Barely any players are left at the club as the moment, far less players he played with, and previous 'legends' like Sauzee and Paaetelinian went wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Yes well OK, but you know what I mean though, there are safer appointments than others and there are riskier appointments than others. Murray could be a Hartley (although he currently has less experience and has never won promotion), or he couldn't be, and we don't need another failed appointment. A huge task awaits to completely populate a squad and create a pre-season program in a matter of days and weeks, then lead them to promotion with Rangers, Hearts and Falkirk awaiting in a division with 1 promotion slot and 2 inter-divisional playoff. I'm not sure his Hibs background counts for much either in terms of achieving results on the pitch (obviously it'd be of huge help in making fans happy - at the beginning anyway). Barely any players are left at the club as the moment, far less players he played with, and previous 'legends' like Sauzee and Paaetelinian went wrong. When exactly was Ian Murray supposed to lead Dumbarton to promotion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Parr Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Wouldn't surprise me if it's Ian Murray. But could someone explain why that would be a rational safe appointment...? Not in terms of "he's a young manager going places" or "he understands this club", "the fans will love him" or all this hope 'n emotion stuff. He's 33, been manager at a part-time club for 18 months, avoided relegation in Year 1 and finished mid-table in Year 2, and won the Stirlingshire Cup... yes, decent. However, it's a huge leap from that to rebuiling Hibernian FC, signing a whole new squad drawn from all parts, and getting promoted ASAP. It might work-out fine, but anyone suggesting it's the obvious appointment or a safe one is having a laugh. Er, his achievements at the Rock have been slightly better than 'decent'. The change in fortune in the second half of season 1 was absolutely extraordinary. An unbelievable turnaround which seen us beat every team in the league. In Year 2 he built on that success taking Dumbarton to their highest league placing in a generation, with our fans scarcely believing that we could be challenging for a play off spot. We also enjoyed our best Scottish cup run in a generation. Best just leaving him alone tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Silverton End Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Er, his achievements at the Rock have been slightly better than 'decent'. The change in fortune in the second half of season 1 was absolutely extraordinary. An unbelievable turnaround which seen us beat every team in the league. In Year 2 he built on that success taking Dumbarton to their highest league placing in a generation, with our fans scarcely believing that we could be challenging for a play off spot. We also enjoyed our best Scottish cup run in a generation. Best just leaving him alone tbh. I wholeheartedly concur with this train of thought. He's of no use to you, Hibs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 When exactly was Ian Murray supposed to lead Dumbarton to promotion? He wasn't. But that doesn't change the fact that he hasn't done that and therefore hasn't experience of the pressures of that situation. I think it is perfectly fair to say that he's an inexperienced candidate and would be more of a gamble than other appointments might be. If it is him, I hope this gamble pays-off, my point is that it might not and after so many failed appointments and with the club in tier 2 that's risky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever_blue Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 neil lennon, it will just be like being at a wee version of celtic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Jambo99 looks like the brains of the operation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinkerbelle Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 lol wut Is that right aye? Hmm, wonder where McCall was when Butcher and the team were at Ross county? I know where Petrie and co were! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wasps1 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Danny lennon is ur man But Murray will get it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyman Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 can't see us paying compo when we're having to give tb and mm a pay off. think it's be someone whose already available. i wouldn't want murray to take this poison chalice of a job. the guys just started out as a manager, last thing he needs is getting slated if things go wrong. steve clarke, never gonna happen but i can dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Hmm, wonder where McCall was when Butcher and the team were at Ross county? I know where Petrie and co were! McCall was presumably plotting his attack on the Champions League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTB Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Stuart McCall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever_blue Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 would be surprised if mcall left motherwell atm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grass Is Greener. Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 There is no fukin way McCall would touch the Hibs job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kierkegaard Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 I think it is perfectly fair to say that he's an inexperienced candidate and would be more of a gamble than other appointments might be. Then get an experienced manager, like Terry Butch...oh wait Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepundit Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 I'd be surprised if Stuart McCall joined as well... but I'd expect him to put a right good Hibs team together if he did. McCall should just bide his time until an offer comes from the English championship though, in my opinion. I reckon Butcher should have done that at Caley Thistle also. His switch to Hibs just didn't make sense at that point in his career when he was highly regarded. McCall, Murray or McLeish would all be excellent appointments. Three people who I have an enormous amount of respect for. McCall and Murray will likely remain where they are, and rightly so. McLeish is available, and he's taken Hibs up before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grass Is Greener. Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Ian Murray 13/8 Stuart McCall 9/4 Danny Lennon 11/2 That's sky bet btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyle Lanley Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Ian Murray 13/8 Stuart McCall 9/4 Danny Lennon 11/2 That's sky bet btw. It better not be Danny Lennon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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