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Utd`s statement was a U Turn

Thomson never mentioned any of this 'pick your clubs carefully' gash when they disputed the amount, I do not believe for a second he believes any of it and it was full of glaring hypocrisy given utd`s previous, no it was all about the 2 year nonsense up until this point and now they have lost the man changes tact and is not willing to stick to his original principles....embarrassing climbdown from him.

What glaring hypocrisy given our 'previous'? Are you going back to the Jim McLean years 20 years ago.?

To add to the list of young players utd have developed and sold or who left under freedom of contract in the last few years I'd add bauben,Gomis, Noel hunt, Barry Douglas, kovacevic, Scott Allen.

Hell you could even chuck in Robson and flood who played their best football here and went pn to more money at bigger clubs elsewhere plus Souttar, watson and Dow in our first team squad.

None of these players have been treated badly or blocked from leaving. Scott Allen may disagree but that was a joint issue with him and the manager - not the club.

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What glaring hypocrisy given our 'previous'? Are you going back to the Jim McLean years 20 years ago.?

To add to the list of young players utd have developed and sold or who left under freedom of contract in the last few years I'd add bauben,Gomis, Noel hunt, Barry Douglas, kovacevic, Scott Allen.

Hell you could even chuck in Robson and flood who played their best football here and went pn to more money at bigger clubs elsewhere plus Souttar, watson and Dow in our first team squad.

None of these players have been treated badly or blocked from leaving. Scott Allen may disagree but that was a joint issue with him and the manager - not the club.

Any chance of an answer? How many of the current Scotland squad came through the ranks at United and How many came through Rangers? It is a simple enough question and will go along way to backing up your belief that ST was right in saying United is the better place for young players.

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How many of the current Scotland team came through the youth ranks at United and how many came through Murray park?

How many? Hutton and mcgregor - 10 years ago? The running costs of Murray park contributed to bankrupting you while our recent youth and signing policy has cleared our debt.

Fully expect Robertson, Gauld, souttar and Armstrong to pick up a lot of Scotland caps. Telfer too with any luck ;)

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How many? Hutton and mcgregor - 10 years ago? The running costs of Murray park contributed to bankrupting you while our recent youth and signing policy has cleared our debt.

Fully expect Robertson, Gauld, souttar and Armstrong to pick up a lot of Scotland caps. Telfer too with any luck ;)

I am not asking you what you expect to happen as i don't expect you to be picking Scotland Squads anytime soon. I am asking you specifically how many of the current Scotland squad came through at Rangers and how many at United?

I can give you the answer if you want regarding Rangers .... 6 players in the squad. McGregor,Hutton,Charlie Adam,Chris Burke,Lewis McLeod and Ross McCormack.

From United i counted one..Johnny Russell.

ETA...I don't follow International Football and was using the Scotland Squad listed on Sky Sports

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I am not asking you what you expect to happen as i don't expect you to be picking Scotland Squads anytime soon. I am asking you specifically how many of the current Scotland squad came through at Rangers and how many at United?

I can give you the answer if you want regarding Rangers .... 6 players in the squad. McGregor,Hutton,Charlie Adam,Chris Burke,Lewis McLeod and Ross McCormack.

From United i counted one..Johnny Russell.

To be fair McLeod wasn't picked to play. He was simply the youngster chosen on this occasion to be in and around the squad to gain experience.

Also Adam hasn't been picked in a squad since the Poland friendly in March and McCormack since the Nigeria friendly in May.

(McGregor and Hutton weren't in the last squad either but they clearly would've been if they were fit).

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Was Burke not brought through at killie rather than murray park? Only McLeod was brought through in the last 5 years which is the time period I am talking about - and the players referred to in the utd statement.

The Falkirk and thistle complaints are re. Managers compo I think. Conway was a tribunal we lost as well - interestingly we only had to pay a 3rd of the telfer fee for an older player with more experience in the same division as CT.

And queens park were paid for spittal, Robertson and Connolly - although I don't think we did for Douglas.

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Was Burke not brought through at killie rather than murray park? Only McLeod was brought through in the last 5 years which is the time period I am talking about - and the players referred to in the utd statement.

I'm sure Burke was at Celtic but moved to Rangers when he was 15/16.

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Was Burke not brought through at killie rather than murray park? Only McLeod was brought through in the last 5 years which is the time period I am talking about - and the players referred to in the utd statement.

Burke was one of the stars of a show made about Murray Park.

Your Chairman made a bold statement telling parents that they should think long and hard about where their kids should go. The facts actually don't back up what he is implying. Rangers youngsters have gone on to be far more successful in recent years and the latest Scotland squad shows this quite clearly.

Of the players you mentioned very few came through the youth ranks at United. Ryan Gauld for example was at Brechin. Robertson at celtic / Queens Park and i cant be bothered checking through the rest.

Wee Burke was at celtic as a youngster but signed for Rangers at a very early age. Dylan McGeoch did the same thing the other way being at Rangers before moving to the other side.

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How are Clydebank fc getting on these days?

That's if you support Clydebank fc... :rolleyes:

Currently sitting bottom of the Super Premier without a win in the opening 10 games. Defense is holding up well enough but we have been very poor at finishing up the other end of the park. I'm hopeful that with Carcary stepping down from the seniors and signing for us, that might change, but we'll see!

Cumnock at home this Saturday if the weather holds up. I'm actually home this weekend so will take this one in, if it's on.

You lot should have listened to me a few years ago when I was telling you to follow the example set by the Clydebank fans ;)

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Surely you do not believe this?

It was a huge f*&kup by whoever wrote the original statement...interestingly I wonder if the liquidators will chase this money given it was Rangers that had the boy for more time than the new The Rangers.

Although I think it's more compliated than that as did Rangers not have to buy Murray park players off a third party, who also were liquidated..what a mess

Of course he does , he's a moron!.

Rangers tried to appease their dwindling support by lying about their favourite subject (not being a new club)

And made a complete c**t of themselves.

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Burke was one of the stars of a show made about Murray Park.

Your Chairman made a bold statement telling parents that they should think long and hard about where their kids should go. The facts actually don't back up what he is implying. Rangers youngsters have gone on to be far more successful in recent years and the latest Scotland squad shows this quite clearly.

Of the players you mentioned very few came through the youth ranks at United. Ryan Gauld for example was at Brechin. Robertson at celtic / Queens Park and i cant be bothered checking through the rest.

Wee Burke was at celtic as a youngster but signed for Rangers at a very early age. Dylan McGeoch did the same thing the other way being at Rangers before moving to the other side.

Clearly Charlie Telfer didnt agree, things have changed massively since you had McGregor and Hutton coming through, MASSIVELY.... :lol::thumsup2

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Derek Carcary at Clydebank!!!!

Thats a shame but if he is anything like the pkayer he was he ll be a standout at that level

It's the one position for me that the difference in quality between the lower leagues and the top end of the juniors is easily noticeable. An average lower league striker can be good for 30 a season in the juniors, when it's not usually the case the other way around. From the highlights I have seen, we create plenty of chances and just don't take them. Hopefully he'll do a job.

Seems to have been a bit of a journeyman since leaving Rangers as a youngster, though I was told his job and the shifts it entails have made that a bit of a necessity. We'll see.

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So, boys and girls, today we've learnt:

1. Dundee United used to send their youth squad up chimneys.

2. The rangers like to keep their fans onside by peddling the same club myth - until there's a whiff of mendacity that m'learneds could get their teeth into.

3. Moses McNeil and Davie Cooper are still waiting to see who won the vote.

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