Ross. Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 He tuped over, you work the rest out.... What does TUPE'ing over entail exactly beyond protecting the employment rights of the employee? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 goan then Cannae wait, where art thou Domsy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Tedi, on 09 Dec 2014 - 15:49, said:goan then I wasn't fussed either way. Hopefully it'll shut some of the "new team lol" morons up. Unfortunately it'll likely just make them louder. Especially if United's own reaction is anything to go by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrik's tongue Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 I expect a fine statement full of digs from Thomson on this. Anything less will be poor form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calum_gers Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Despite all this gloating, I still think it would have been better if we had actually played the young lad and given him a proper chance, perhaps if we had done this then he might have been winning SPFL young player of the month for Rangers instead of United, ultimately the arabs will have the last laugh here. Sshh lets gloat for a while. Remember our manager is a genius, he knows what he's doing. We allowed Telfer to leave because our other youthful superstars are keeping him out of the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross. Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Seething ^^^^^ ^^^^^ Not enjoying the journey. The £170k figure is a bit strange is all I am thinking. I thought Rangers were looking for 6 years compensation which would work out at £210k? While Utd were trying to pay 2 years which was £70k? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross. Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 I was reading that it is on a sliding scale, anyway who cares, it is certainly not 2 years Looks to me like they have made the decision to try and appease as many folk as possible, whilst once again avoiding an explicit or definite answer to the question that a lot of folk keep asking. Changed days mind you, to see you lot celebrating a fee of that size having had a good young player nicked by a team from Dundee. It's almost the opposite of Khizanishvili(sp). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepundit Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 £170k + VAT takes it to £204k. Weren't Rangers denied prize money from the Scottish Premier League? Well, if they're getting the full amount for Telfer they should be trying to get their prize money as well. It's the same argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 thepundit, on 09 Dec 2014 - 16:19, said: £170k + VAT takes it to £204k. Weren't Rangers denied prize money from the Scottish Premier League? Well, if they're getting the full amount for Telfer they should be trying to get their prize money as well. It's the same argument. Well, a precedent has been set at least. Would Dundee United taking it further have any sort of effect on that though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepundit Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Well, a precedent has been set at least. Would Dundee United taking it further have any sort of effect on that though? Probably not. I think if Rangers were going to get that prize money they would have been paid it by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muirkirk nil Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 “Choose Your Clubs Carefully”December 9, 2014Dundee United Chairman Stephen Thompson today issued a warning to parents of all young Scottish players to “choose their clubs very, very carefully”.Thompson was reacting to the decision by an SPFL Tribunal that compensation of £204,000 was due to Rangers Football Club following Charlie Telfer’s decision to leave the Ibrox club for Dundee United in the summer.His decision was influenced by the fact that he had made only one substitute appearance for Rangers in a competitive match; lasting only 20 minutes in League One when victory was already assured. However, with guidance and development received at Dundee United the player has broken through into the first team and was awarded the SPFL Young Player of the Month in a more senior league.The Dundee United Chairman said: “This judgement in our opinion will have a serious impact on the freedom of movement of some young players through no fault of their own.“Today’s decision protects clubs even in the event that those clubs are responsible for players’ careers being stifled at a critical stage in their development.“It will restrict the opportunities for some of our most promising young players to gain regular first team football and act as a deterrent to any Scottish football club which wishes to take such players on. Today’s decision is completely at odds with the stated aims of our football authorities in respect of encouraging our most promising young players to play first team football at the highest level.“It highlights the need for parents and young players to choose their clubs very, very carefully. Today’s judgement now sets a dangerous precedent that means some of our most promising young players will be deprived of the opportunity to secure a contract at a club where they have been offered a genuine first team opportunity and to improve their earnings purely because the compensation has been set at a ridiculously prohibitive level. The sum awarded to Rangers is almost seven times the amount offered to the player under the terms of his new contract with the Glasgow club. “In recent years Dundee United has successfully developed the careers of players such as Andy Robertson, Ryan Gauld, Stuart Armstrong, Gary Mackay-Steven, Craig Conway, Paul Dixon, Johnny Russell and David Goodwillie, all of whom benefitted from regular professional coaching and first team football at Dundee United and went on to play at full international or Under 21 level for Scotland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meathead Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Hahaha....nonsense ... Gasporato...Halket...McLeod...Aird...Gallgher are all way ahead of him. Ramsay is another and probably Barrie Mackay How accurate this has proven to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidkennedyshand Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Interesting they mention Craig Conway.They tried to get him on the cheap from us as well and we had to take them to a tribunal to get anything for him. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/a/ayr_united/5328172.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haggis pakora Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Jim Spence @bbcjimspence Statement due shortly from @dundeeunitedfc re Telfer compensation decision. They are not happy it seems. @tyroneSTV United understood to be 'furious' with the outcome of today's telfer tribunal Wee jum will be super raging Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haggis pakora Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Looks to me like they have made the decision to try and appease as many folk as possible, whilst once again avoiding an explicit or definite answer to the question that a lot of folk keep asking. Changed days mind you, to see you lot celebrating a fee of that size having had a good young player nicked by a team from Dundee. It's almost the opposite of Khizanishvili(sp). How are Clydebank fc getting on these days? That's if you support Clydebank fc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No8. Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 How accurate this has proven to be. I think it is a sad reflection on the plummeting standard of the top league in Scotland that this dud has been voted young player of the month. I don't think staying at Ibrox has held back Lewis McLeod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haggis pakora Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 “Choose Your Clubs Carefully” December 9, 2014 Dundee United Chairman Stephen Thompson today issued a warning to parents of all young Scottish players to “choose their clubs very, very carefully”. Thompson was reacting to the decision by an SPFL Tribunal that compensation of £204,000 was due to Rangers Football Club following Charlie Telfer’s decision to leave the Ibrox club for Dundee United in the summer. His decision was influenced by the fact that he had made only one substitute appearance for Rangers in a competitive match; lasting only 20 minutes in League One when victory was already assured. However, with guidance and development received at Dundee United the player has broken through into the first team and was awarded the SPFL Young Player of the Month in a more senior league. The Dundee United Chairman said: “This judgement in our opinion will have a serious impact on the freedom of movement of some young players through no fault of their own. “Today’s decision protects clubs even in the event that those clubs are responsible for players’ careers being stifled at a critical stage in their development. “It will restrict the opportunities for some of our most promising young players to gain regular first team football and act as a deterrent to any Scottish football club which wishes to take such players on. Today’s decision is completely at odds with the stated aims of our football authorities in respect of encouraging our most promising young players to play first team football at the highest level. “It highlights the need for parents and young players to choose their clubs very, very carefully. Today’s judgement now sets a dangerous precedent that means some of our most promising young players will be deprived of the opportunity to secure a contract at a club where they have been offered a genuine first team opportunity and to improve their earnings purely because the compensation has been set at a ridiculously prohibitive level. The sum awarded to Rangers is almost seven times the amount offered to the player under the terms of his new contract with the Glasgow club. “ In recent years Dundee United has successfully developed the careers of players such as Andy Robertson, Ryan Gauld, Stuart Armstrong, Gary Mackay-Steven, Craig Conway, Paul Dixon, Johnny Russell and David Goodwillie, all of whom benefitted from regular professional coaching and first team football at Dundee United and went on to play at full international or Under 21 level for Scotland. You can feel the seeth from Thompson through this statement. Get it up ya Thompson ya lanky streak o pish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dublinarab Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 We got 400k in compo for Scott Allen who similarly hadn't played much first team football at the time - although he was a few years older, an u21 international and injury had slowed down his development. IIRC we were due 350k but west brom chucked in a bit extra to get him in January rather than wait till his contract ended. Interesting that telfer was apparently only offered around 30k per year to resign. That only pays for black for 6 weeks or 'big jig' for 2. Safe to say utd are still the winners here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dublinarab Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Lanky? What height are you if ST is lanky? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz FFC Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Interesting they mention Craig Conway.They tried to get him on the cheap from us as well and we had to take them to a tribunal to get anything for him. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/a/ayr_united/5328172.stm So that's Ayr Utd, Falkirk, Queens Park and Rangers that Dundee Utd have tried to screw when signing their players.Do Utd pay for anyone? ETA Partick too. Utd won't get much sympathy from Scottish clubs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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