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4 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said:

 


Surely short term loans are the last thing you want in a relegation shitshow (if it comes to it)?

 

Purely depends on the calibre of course, if you get someone of the quality of a Naismith then great (if fit). 

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20 minutes ago, HibsFan said:

Stopped paying attention to the top flight that season for reasons that I don't need to get into, but cheers, there is a precedent then.

Worth mentioning they tried it again under Coyle, and got relegated as they managed get worse after the window. Same with Dundee, who's overhaul in January made them worse.

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Actually Fenlon brought in a boatload of loan players to keep us up the season where we just beat Dunfermline.

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When Michael Stewart said a few weeks ago on Sportscene ..... “ with the quality that Hearts have in their squad it is criminal that they are languishing at the bottom end of table”. My immediate reaction to that statement was - what quality?

If you analyse the squad it is packed full of mediocrity - just picking out a few stalwarts - Berra sadly done at this level, Walker couldn’t make it down south and it is plain to see why, McLean a journeyman, Clare a passenger etc etc. Young players like Cochrane, McDonald, have gone from being high potential youngsters with huge futures to players who can barely get a game in the Championship?The fundamental problem is that the squad is extremely poor and a huge clear out required. New Manager wants a high pressing game which is great in theory and you then look at the forward players and none of them are capable of playing much more than 45 minutes at normal pace far less pressing the ball hard for 90 minutes.

Gross mismanagement - the Cathro project, Levein entrusted with the rebuild

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3 minutes ago, Rjc-1988 said:

When Michael Stewart said a few weeks ago on Sportscene ..... “ with the quality that Hearts have in their squad it is criminal that they are languishing at the bottom end of table”. My immediate reaction to that statement was - what quality?

If you analyse the squad it is packed full of mediocrity - just picking out a few stalwarts - Berra sadly done at this level, Walker couldn’t make it down south and it is plain to see why, McLean a journeyman, Clare a passenger etc etc. Young players like Cochrane, McDonald, have gone from being high potential youngsters with huge futures to players who can barely get a game in the Championship?The fundamental problem is that the squad is extremely poor and a huge clear out required. New Manager wants a high pressing game which is great in theory and you then look at the forward players and none of them are capable of playing much more than 45 minutes at normal pace far less pressing the ball hard for 90 minutes.

Gross mismanagement - the Cathro project, Levein entrusted with the rebuild

Absolutely spot on 

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5 minutes ago, Rjc-1988 said:

When Michael Stewart said a few weeks ago on Sportscene ..... “ with the quality that Hearts have in their squad it is criminal that they are languishing at the bottom end of table”. My immediate reaction to that statement was - what quality?

If you analyse the squad it is packed full of mediocrity - just picking out a few stalwarts - Berra sadly done at this level, Walker couldn’t make it down south and it is plain to see why, McLean a journeyman, Clare a passenger etc etc. Young players like Cochrane, McDonald, have gone from being high potential youngsters with huge futures to players who can barely get a game in the Championship?The fundamental problem is that the squad is extremely poor and a huge clear out required. New Manager wants a high pressing game which is great in theory and you then look at the forward players and none of them are capable of playing much more than 45 minutes at normal pace far less pressing the ball hard for 90 minutes.

Gross mismanagement - the Cathro project, Levein entrusted with the rebuild

You're not wrong, but it'd have been quicker to type "Michael Stewart is a fucking cretin"

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Not going to be the third person to quote RJC, but he's spot on - unlike his brother MJC, who never is.

People have just decided to repeat this mantra of Hearts having a squad full of quality, when all evidence points against it.

Sure, they could be playing better than they currently are, and a lack of confidence plays a part in that, but what position do Hearts' squad really merit on paper?

 

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From the outside looking in, it's always seemed to me that the signing policy and squad building have been a shambles. That's not to say that there isn't any decent players there, but there doesn't seem to be much thought behind it. Guys in their late 20's and early (or even mid) 30's with no sell on value. Mid 20's jobbers and squad fillers. Only Souttar and Halkett strike me as players bought at a good age with potential to sell on for profit.

Whilst not anywhere near the Romanov era of a 'faceless cast of thousands'. It appears that players are signed for the sake of it sometimes. Hearts have one of if not the biggest budget outside the OF and it's squandered on mediocrity. Instead of say, paying a bit extra for a good midfielder and having a cheap back up or youngster, it's spent on 3 players of similar quality.

Levein has left an absolute mess behind him. 

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It’s not about ability. It’s about the basics. Working hard, application, team work and digging in when the going gets tough.
That’s what wins you football matches.
We’ve a group who collectively have no fight, will hide when they need to be brave and ultimately, cannot handle the expectation level of playing for Hearts.
There as so many other factors regarding where we find ourselves, confidence is clearly a massive one, squad size and the imbalance of it too...but we lack the fundamentals any football team needs and it’s so apparent when we come up against teams around us who quite simply, want it more.

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This BBC documentary will be some viewing.


Apologies going post daft the night.......

Would you take Macca back Tam? Anyone else? I’d have said no but half a season to sign off with us would do eh?

No danger Hearts will do business when we are so close to each other mind.

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Budge & Co have to be looking at how much relegation will cost the club. 

It’d be okay if we accept that debt right now and loan a few players above what we can really afford, save us going down.

A Cameron, Skacel & Naismith from some places wherever they are would be ideal. There will be good players out there., players too good for us that we will just have to pay for in the short term if we want to stay up. 

f**k pretending the players we have are good and hoping we stay up. 

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3 hours ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said:

From the outside looking in, it's always seemed to me that the signing policy and squad building have been a shambles. That's not to say that there isn't any decent players there, but there doesn't seem to be much thought behind it. Guys in their late 20's and early (or even mid) 30's with no sell on value. Mid 20's jobbers and squad fillers. Only Souttar and Halkett strike me as players bought at a good age with potential to sell on for profit.

Whilst not anywhere near the Romanov era of a 'faceless cast of thousands'. It appears that players are signed for the sake of it sometimes. Hearts have one of if not the biggest budget outside the OF and it's squandered on mediocrity. Instead of say, paying a bit extra for a good midfielder and having a cheap back up or youngster, it's spent on 3 players of similar quality.

Levein has left an absolute mess behind him. 

You will be hard pushed to find a Hearts fan who disagrees with that. Budge is equally as culpable for the whole shitshow too.

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31 minutes ago, Costanza said:

 


Apologies going post daft the night.......

Would you take Macca back Tam? Anyone else? I’d have said no but half a season to sign off with us would do eh?

No danger Hearts will do business when we are so close to each other mind.

 

You talking to me?

If so, na, I'd rather we went for a  younger, taller striker who loves a headed goal and can bring others into play. Better than Callum Hendry before any Saints fans say we already have that. Random mentioned Nesbitt before, I'd be willing to take a chance as he seems to have improved over the last wee while.

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4 hours ago, HibsFan said:

Not going to be the third person to quote RJC, but he's spot on - unlike his brother MJC, who never is.

People have just decided to repeat this mantra of Hearts having a squad full of quality, when all evidence points against it.

Sure, they could be playing better than they currently are, and a lack of confidence plays a part in that, but what position do Hearts' squad really merit on paper?

We've got a good right back, a 17 year old that should play less before we ruin him, a permanently injured defensive mid, permanently injured centre half and a permanently injured forward. The rest of the squad is, at best, fucking cowardly.

12th seems fine.

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Be afraid, even your apparent best players are absolutely deluded about their current situation.

We've never finished below 8th under TW, and Halkett has never played for a team who have finished above Saints...

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the big trouble is that there are 25/30 players, some of them should go out, but where & how? who does want them? maybe hearts should pay all their salaries...

on the other hand, who does want come nowadays? 

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