paranoid android Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 4 hours ago, D.A.F.C said: While I think it’s unfair I just can’t see anything changing because that means celtics title would be challenged. No chance. Finally, someone said it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inreganhendrywetrust Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 I hope you chancers get a points reduction for all your anticsWomen should be nowhere near the top of a football club she has embarrassed your team across Scotland and beyond Word has it that we will be charging you 30pound per ticket at starks park when the season starts to recoup some of that wasted money -12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Empty It Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 Women should be nowhere near the top of a football club she has embarrassed your team across Scotland and beyond Is that you Andy Gray?Nothing says an intellect like irrelevant sexist comments. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kernow Hearts Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 (edited) 48 minutes ago, inreganhendrywetrust said: I hope you chancers get a points reduction for all your antics Women should be nowhere near the top of a football club she has embarrassed your team across Scotland and beyond Word has it that we will be charging you 30pound per ticket at starks park when the season starts to recoup some of that wasted money Chancers? You just don't get it do you? The league was not finished. There were still 24 points to play for and yet Hearts were expelled from the league. Not relegated, expelled. Worse still Partick were a point behind with a game in hand. They were in that position as the SPFL had asked them to play a Scottish Cup game. Every other major football league in Europe was paused and now played to a finish. All except Scotland where the SPFL was brought to a close as those at the top started to panic that Celtic would lose out on 9in a row and possible qualification for the Champions League if UEFA called for all football to be declared null and void. For the sake of footballing integrity Hearts have had to take this to court. As a Hearts supporter I am proud of what actions have been taken by the club and the owner. Ask yourself this, if Usain Bolt was in a race and was leading and a dog ran across the track to stop the race would you retake or give him the win? Same applies here. Edited July 4, 2020 by Kernow Hearts -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kernow Hearts Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 Also as an aside, there will be no Hearts fans at Starks Park next season. We won't we coming anywhere near your small time club. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 7 minutes ago, Kernow Hearts said: Every other major football league in Europe was paused and now played to a finish. Well that's a blatant lie for starters. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kernow Hearts Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 1 minute ago, RandomGuy. said: Well that's a blatant lie for starters. The ones that matter. England, Germany, Italy. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aubrey Maturin Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 Just now, Kernow Hearts said: The ones that matter. England, Germany, Italy. The counter argument would be though that many small leagues like ours did not restart. That's surely a fairer comparison. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Kernow Hearts said: The ones that matter. England, Germany, Italy. You mean the ones who have over one billion pounds/euros going into their leagues and so can afford testing/full wages without any income? If France, who have a TV income of €750m a season couldnt afford to continue their season, how the f**k do you expect Scottish football to do so? Edited July 4, 2020 by RandomGuy. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Tynierose said: The counter argument would be though that many small leagues like ours did not restart. That's surely a fairer comparison. Even that's hardly fair, as the ones who did generally were allowed fans in the grounds to some degree. The Scottish government banned training until July, and are still saying no fans in grounds until at least October. Its fantasy stuff to say the season could be finished without murdering about half the SPFL. Edited July 4, 2020 by RandomGuy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kernow Hearts Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Tynierose said: The counter argument would be though that many small leagues like ours did not restart. That's surely a fairer comparison. Yes but could have been declared null and void. It didn't have to be declared. The money could have paid out to the clubs and then if they wanted to they could have voted for reconstruction. What the SPFL and the member clubs are trying to do is put Hearts and Partick out of business by limiting their trading. This is just as much a business issue as a footballing one. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brashy's Boots Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 The league's own rules say the season is over when the league authorities say it is over. They did. It was. Court agreed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kernow Hearts Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: You mean the ones who have over one billion pounds/euros going into their leagues and so can afford testing/full wages without any income? If France, who have a TV income of €750m a season couldnt afford to continue their season, how the f**k do you expect Scottish football to do so? Yes I see that but as stated in the other reply the league could have been declared null and void and then restated. The SPFL are now panicking as the initial vote was a sham. This is now the opportunity to clean up Scottish football for the better. Edited July 4, 2020 by Kernow Hearts 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kernow Hearts Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, Brashy's Boots said: The league's own rules say the season is over when the league authorities say it is over. They did. It was. Court agreed. Yes but the vote was flawed. Alot more to come out in the open when it goes to Arbitration 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 On 30/06/2020 at 21:32, LincolnHearts said: Will be two clubs that we actively help out and work together with on and off the field from now on. You've certainly a lot to teach them... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, Kernow Hearts said: Yes I see that but as stated in the other reply the league could have been declared null and void and then restated. If you choose to null and void, then you cannot hand out prize money based on final position, and UEFA made it clear you couldnt put clubs into Europe. Youd then have contractual issues. Sponsors suggested theyd ask for the 19/20 deal to be carried into 20/21 rather than the increased deal they had agreed upon. Sky told the EPL that null and void would see them do them same, which would be a massive blow for Scottish football if they done similar up here. Players would be denied bonuses theyd earned, leading to breach of contract arguments and more than likely legal between players and clubs. You'll no doubt argue that would all be worth it to save Hearts, but you've to remember how biased you are. The other 39 clubs voted in the exact same way Hearts did, for whatever is in their best interests. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 25 minutes ago, Kernow Hearts said: Yes I see that but as stated in the other reply the league could have been declared null and void and then restated. The SPFL are now panicking as the initial vote was a sham. This is now the opportunity to clean up Scottish football for the better. I presume you mean "restarted". You can't declare it null and void and then restart it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wardy Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 42 minutes ago, Kernow Hearts said: Also as an aside, there will be no Hearts fans at Starks Park next season. We won't we coming anywhere near your small time club. With the amount of pish your posting I’m surprised you’d even make it out your house... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ2 Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 If you choose to null and void, then you cannot hand out prize money based on final position, and UEFA made it clear you couldnt put clubs into Europe. Youd then have contractual issues. Sponsors suggested theyd ask for the 19/20 deal to be carried into 20/21 rather than the increased deal they had agreed upon. Sky told the EPL that null and void would see them do them same, which would be a massive blow for Scottish football if they done similar up here. Players would be denied bonuses theyd earned, leading to breach of contract arguments and more than likely legal between players and clubs. You'll no doubt argue that would all be worth it to save Hearts, but you've to remember how biased you are. The other 39 clubs voted in the exact same way Hearts did, for whatever is in their best interests.The SPFL could have awarded monies based on “final” positions then worry about any under/over payments once the resumes season had finished. It wouldn’t have been ideal but it wouldn’t have been that difficult - the whole world getting a highly contagious and lethal virus wasn’t exactly in the plans under ideal either. UEFA also did not make it clear you couldn’t put clubs in Europe. They said maybe they wouldn’t accept, which was pretty widely ridiculed at the time that I seen. Like f**k they’d refuse entries from England, Spain, Italy, Germany we both know that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Axle Grease Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 Get down with the Trumpets, down with the Trumpets 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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