Heart of Midlothian 2014-

[AberdeenHibee]

Sheer desperation and paranoia has rooted itself rapidly and deeply across the entirety of Heart of Midlothian Football Club.

Jambos Kickback is awash with wild, sensationalist conspiracy theories and a general opinion that Hearts are too big to go down and it would be incredibly unfair it they were to be relegated.  This is despite them being deservedly rock bottom with c.80% of the season already played and having been, by a distance, worst team in our league for over a year.  Many appear to think the league will be restructured to accommodate them - staggeringly arrogant and completely impossible.  Many others think the league should be null and voided - again completely impossible due to the financial ruin which would ensue by doing so.  The Rulebook states the league can be ended at any point our authorities see fit, therefore that is what will be done. 

Take it with grace and dignity, otherwise we will all just laugh at you when the impending relegation does come (which it will, by the way).   Hearts ARE going down and deservedly so.  Celtic will be champions and deservedly so.  

Edited April 4, 2020 by AberdeenHibee

[JamieThomas]

10 minutes ago, AberdeenHibee said:

Hearts are too big to go down

Correct.

[HTG]

Just now, Tynierose said:

^^^^^^^^^  really needs his hole.

 

He just needs reminded of how much can change in the space of 8 games. Surely the 2013/14 crash and burn hasn't been entirely swept aside by the David Gray moment. 

[Pet Jeden]

54 minutes ago, AberdeenHibee said:

Sheer desperation and paranoia has rooted itself rapidly and deeply across the entirety of Heart of Midlothian Football Club.

Jambos Kickback is awash with wild, sensationalist conspiracy theories and a general opinion that Hearts are too big to go down and it would be incredibly unfair it they were to be relegated.  This is despite them being deservedly rock bottom with c.80% of the season already played and having been, by a distance, worst team in our league for over a year.  Many appear to think the league will be restructured to accommodate them - staggeringly arrogant and completely impossible.  Many others think the league should be null and voided - again completely impossible due to the financial ruin which would ensue by doing so.  The Rulebook states the league can be ended at any point our authorities see fit, therefore that is what will be done. 

Take it with grace and dignity, otherwise we will all just laugh at you when the impending relegation does come (which it will, by the way).   Hearts ARE going down and deservedly so.  Celtic will be champions and deservedly so.  

So you don't remember Hearts getting chased down and pipped for the title on the last day? You don't remember Hibs falling like a stone to unexpectedly grab a relegation play off slot? The only thing you are right about is that any decision made will not be based on saving Hearts

[Lebowski]

Trying to look at this objectively as possible, I'm still flabbergasted at the praise Budge has had from some quarters for 'taking the lead' on this. Firstly, dealing with staff contracts via public ultimatum is just shite management by anyone's standards* and now that the lay of the land has changed, the messaging is all over the shop - as Falcor's post sums up.
Budge would deserve praise if she'd waited more than five minutes to announce something after gathering the necessary information and consulting with staff on a sensible way forward. 
*It may be that the 50% wage cut thing going public was taken out of her hands. If that's the case, then Hearts still 'acted first' because of shoddy management, rather than Budge's brilliant business acumen.  

A mate reckons they hit the panic button after they found out that their insurance didn't cover it. It was so quick to happen when it was pretty clear that the government would have to do something that there had to be an event which prompted it. That would be the type of thing which a club could check quickly, and it would be something which would be a complete disaster when it was discovered. That would explain why they moved so much quicker than other sides to slash costs.

Sure someone at Aberdeen mentioned that not all clubs had insurance when they found out that their insurer would not renew their policy which did cover it.

Pure guess obviously but it seems somewhat logical. If it wasn't that, I'd guess something else prompted the apparent panic.

[Sortmeout]

36 minutes ago, Lebowski said:

A mate reckons they hit the panic button after they found out that their insurance didn't cover it. It was so quick to happen when it was pretty clear that the government would have to do something that there had to be an event which prompted it. That would be the type of thing which a club could check quickly, and it would be something which would be a complete disaster when it was discovered. That would explain why they moved so much quicker than other sides to slash costs.

Sure someone at Aberdeen mentioned that not all clubs had insurance when they found out that their insurer would not renew their policy which did cover it.

Pure guess obviously but it seems somewhat logical. If it wasn't that, I'd guess something else prompted the apparent panic.

Were you taking notes when your friend had this theory or is it (obviously) your own theory?

[Lebowski]

Were you taking notes when your friend had this theory or is it (obviously) your own theory?

It's no exactly complicated. Hearts panicked, wonder why. Here's a plausible scenario.

People are bored out their tits tbh, so is it really a surprise to you that people would be discussing the slim pickings of football news which are actually occurring?

[LincolnHearts]

7 hours ago, AberdeenHibee said:

Heart of Midlothian Football Club just need to accept their impending relegation with dignity and humility.  

The PR surrounding that club has been an utter car crash over the past 3 months in particular and an acceptance needs to be had by their supporters that they have been the very worst team in our league not only this season, but for over 1 calendar year.  They are bottom across all counts, however you try to slice and dice it.  They deserve to go down.  Dundee United deserve to come up.  Hearts need a total clear-out anyways, so I am sure a season or two in the Championship would be no bad thing anyway.  

Acht post is pointless, the relegation is happening anyway no matter what Hearts think.  

 

4 hours ago, Alan Stubbs said:

Trying to look at this objectively as possible, I'm still flabbergasted at the praise Budge has had from some quarters for 'taking the lead' on this. Firstly, dealing with staff contracts via public ultimatum is just shite management by anyone's standards* and now that the lay of the land has changed, the messaging is all over the shop - as Falcor's post sums up.

Budge would deserve praise if she'd waited more than five minutes to announce something after gathering the necessary information and consulting with staff on a sensible way forward. 

*It may be that the 50% wage cut thing going public was taken out of her hands. If that's the case, then Hearts still 'acted first' because of shoddy management, rather than Budge's brilliant business acumen.  

You two should give your heads a wobble.

Hibs will always be Hibs.

[ewan14]

2 hours ago, HTG said:

He just needs reminded of how much can change in the space of 8 games. Surely the 2013/14 crash and burn hasn't been entirely swept aside by the David Gray moment. 

It has , thank goodness !

Official

[Alan Stubbs]

1 hour ago, LincolnHearts said:

 

You two should give your heads a wobble.

Hibs will always be Hibs.

Nice post dad.

[LincolnHearts]

13 hours ago, Alan Stubbs said:

Nice post dad.

Nae bother son.

[LincolnHearts]

16 hours ago, Pet Jeden said:

So you don't remember Hearts getting chased down and pipped for the title on the last day? You don't remember Hibs falling like a stone to unexpectedly grab a relegation play off slot? The only thing you are right about is that any decision made will not be based on saving Hearts

That pretty much nails it.

I'd imagine Partick would be pissed if they were relegated from the championship, when they are just a point behind with a game in hand.

League reconstruction is a certainty, with our 4 leagues becoming 3 x 14 if we still have 42 clubs left.

Edited April 5, 2020 by LincolnHearts

[Mr. X]

What are these cowardly Hibs fans so afraid of that they can't handle the idea of Hearts being in the same league as them when football eventually returns? 

[Tony Wonder]

4 points with 24 to play is f**k all, that's why I'd be annoyed if it was ended and we were relegated.  We are shite and bottom, so if it happens I won't greet too much, but we were off the bottom the week before losing to St Mirren and a result for Hamilton that no one seen coming put us back there.  Football can swing wildly from one set of results, so with not a kick in the arse off a quarter of the season to play and games against our closest rivals to come, it' pretty obvious why no one is just accepting it.

[jaybeee]

On 03/04/2020 at 18:24, ATLIS said:

Apparently as part of the rules somewhere it states contracts can be 'paused' if the season is suspended. So if the season is suspended then so are contracts which may automatically carry through to the end of the season, whenever that is

is this fact or fantasy?

[Raidernation]

is this fact or fantasy?

Is this just real life?

[McGarci]

would you sign gordon next season? me, of course, dont mind in premier or championship.

[NJ2]

would you sign gordon next season? me, of course, dont mind in premier or championship.

Tbh, probably not no. Craig’s 37 and hasn’t played much over the last couple of seasons.
Looking only at out of contract goalkeepers in the Scottish Premiership I would take Hladky from St Mirren first, or Wes Foderingham at a push. There will of course be a lot of other out of contract keepers available, and presumably some who’s club would let them move on for free (not necessarily still looking at the Scottish Premiership though).

[Munoz]

1 hour ago, NJ2 said:

Tbh, probably not no. Craig’s 37 and hasn’t played much over the last couple of seasons.
Looking only at out of contract goalkeepers in the Scottish Premiership I would take Hladky from St Mirren first, or Wes Foderingham at a push. There will of course be a lot of other out of contract keepers available, and presumably some who’s club would let them move on for free (not necessarily still looking at the Scottish Premiership though).

No chance of Hladky ending up at Tynecastle ,unless it's for a Glasgow team. I'm still hopeful he gets the move he was wanting,  and ends up in England. 

[NorthBank]

4 points with 24 to play is f**k all, that's why I'd be annoyed if it was ended and we were relegated.  We are shite and bottom, so if it happens I won't greet too much, but we were off the bottom the week before losing to St Mirren and a result for Hamilton that no one seen coming put us back there.  Football can swing wildly from one set of results, so with not a kick in the arse off a quarter of the season to play and games against our closest rivals to come, it' pretty obvious why no one is just accepting it.

Fact is Hearts have had 30 games to find a league position and you have - bottom. Hypotheticals are not facts and you've done nothing to indicate in those 30 games the position of relegation is not where you should be and miraculously there will be an improvement. The fact is after 30 games you are still shite. As Belgium and other nations are saying we have to deal with facts and not fantasy.