Diamonds are Forever Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Billy Stark would be a great appointment IMO.With his experience both at 1st Team Level as a great player ( could ghost into penalty boxes and finish from midfield with aplomb ) and manager ( no 2 to Tommy Burns at Killie during the best years Killie have ever had ) coupled with recent Youth experience in the Scotland set up he is an ideal appointment for Ayr IMO. Why is his (30 year old) playing career of any relevance to his managerial ability? Having to take a bunch of talentless League One players, make them hard to beat and climb the league is pretty much the polar opposite of what he's been doing the last few years. His record before that was pretty mixed. On the plus side at the very least he would command some kind of respect off the players, and he is actually a manager, not just some player in his late 30s as is the fashion these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Armour Appreciation Society Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 If he has managed previously at three clubs ( irrespective of success ) that would make him one of the most experienced managers we have employed in the last 36 years. 1978 Ally MacLeod, 1979 - 1983 Willie McLean, (3) 1983 - 1985 George Caldwell, (0) 1985 - 1990 Ally MacLeod, ( Plenty ) 1991 - 1993 George Burley, (0) 1993 - 1995 Simon Stainrod, (1) 1995 - 2002 Gordon Dalziel, (0) 2002 - 2004 Campbell Money, (1) 2004 - 2005 Mark Shanks, (0) 2005 - 2007 Robert Connor, (0) 2007 Neil Watt, (1) 2007 - 2012 Brian Reid, (0) 2012 - 2014 Mark Roberts, (0) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue-Orchid Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Stark would be a poor appointment especially if Ayr are looking towards youths. He a did a fine job of ruining anything positive coming through Scotland under 21's. Got lucky that there was a couple of players carried his team further than they probably deserved to go. He's got a great record with the first team though. Was Dean Keenan not looking to get into management? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shibuya Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 If he has managed previously at three clubs ( irrespective of success ) that would make him one of the most experienced managers we have employed in the last 36 years. 1978 Ally MacLeod, 1979 - 1983 Willie McLean, (3) 1983 - 1985 George Caldwell, (0) 1985 - 1990 Ally MacLeod, ( Plenty ) 1991 - 1993 George Burley, (0) 1993 - 1995 Simon Stainrod, (1) 1995 - 2002 Gordon Dalziel, (0) 2002 - 2004 Campbell Money, (1) 2004 - 2005 Mark Shanks, (0) 2005 - 2007 Robert Connor, (0) 2007 Neil Watt, (1) 2007 - 2012 Brian Reid, (0) 2012 - 2014 Mark Roberts, (0) That is a sobering list. Not entirely sure what relevance national management has to do with Ayr United and SFL1, the U21's have been garbage for most of my life.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diegomarahenry Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 McLeod and Burley went on to international management after Ayr but 5 have never managed at senior level since.......3 of them in the Cameron(s) era and all currently not in a management job Cameron must be due picking a winner soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk89 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 McLeod and Burley went on to international management after Ayr but 5 have never managed at senior level since.......3 of them in the Cameron(s) era and all currently not in a management job Cameron must be due picking a winner soon 1st week in January apparently. Have to remember it's Christmas so I'd expect us to have the shortlist sorted by Christmas Eve and interviews to be done between Christmas and New Year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmkeenan85 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Stark would be a poor appointment especially if Ayr are looking towards youths. He a did a fine job of ruining anything positive coming through Scotland under 21's. Got lucky that there was a couple of players carried his team further than they probably deserved to go. He's got a great record with the first team though. Was Dean Keenan not looking to get into management? Not a chance!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted December 22, 2014 Author Share Posted December 22, 2014 Not a chance!! canny be that hard, all you need to know is to hold 18 and get into these dicks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 canny be that hard, all you need to know is to hold 18 and get into these dicks He does that already, with the added bonus of flicking the vicks at keepers he's just battered a free-kick past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingaNinja Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Merry Christmas everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Did Ayr play Kilmarnock on Christmas day 1915, or is twitter lying to me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Mojo Risin' Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Did Ayr play Kilmarnock on Christmas day 1915, or is twitter lying to me? It is true, Ayr won 2-0. The last time Ayr United played on Christmas day was an old Division 1 match at Partick Thistle, which Ayr won 1-0 in 1971. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingaNinja Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 The Pars fans having an absolute melt down with Geggan and Moffat after today's game with Peterhead. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diegomarahenry Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 The Pars fans having an absolute melt down with Geggan and Moffat after today's game with Peterhead. :lol: I'd take both back in a heartbeat, effort is a quality we are desperately short of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingaNinja Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 I'd take both back in a heartbeat, effort is a quality we are desperately short of I agree, would certainly improve what we have at the moment although there are a few of our supporters who would say differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulloch Gorum Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Anyone suggesting Billy Stark as a manager on the basis of his playing career has presumably never heard of Ally McCoist. Or, indeed, of Mark Roberts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest_Man#1 Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Geggan and Moffat would be our two best players by a distance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordieBoy80 Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 If you need effort you don't want Geggan. He hasn't kicked a ball all season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 If you need effort you don't want Geggan. He hasn't kicked a ball all season. It's not true to say he's lacking effort, but he is certainly lacking anything close to good play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diegomarahenry Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Bit of Ayr memorabilia up at auction this month, The jersey of the last Ayr player to be capped by Scotland while at the club http://www.mctears.co.uk/auctions/lot.aspx?id=997e5cea-6618-41c3-bc36-91434d0c9ad8&page=1&referrer=browse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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