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The Famous Aberdeen - Season 2021/22


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15 minutes ago, Merkland Red said:

I see they've moved our kick off against Dundee on the 16th October to 6pm.

That's going to end up in carnage with some of the bams in our support.

Any reason given for this?  

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4 hours ago, Bogbrush1903 said:

It looks like our "challenger brand" model might be on the wane after all those years of 'success' under Derek McInnes with lots of semi final/runners up/top 4/European qualifiers titles in the bag.

However, it's good that we're still playing a challenging brand of football to watch.

I've attached the 'challenger brand' document if you need to reacquaint yourself with this project and exciting journey we're currently undergoing.

 

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I absolutely realise that you’re taking the piss, but you know what, I enjoy going to semi finals, I enjoy going to finals, I enjoy when we finish 4th or better and I enjoy qualifying for Europe every season. Only one other club in the country has done this as regularly as us in the last 8 years. Never take any of these things for granted.

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2 minutes ago, kingjoey said:

I absolutely realise that you’re taking the piss, but you know what, I enjoy going to semi finals, I enjoy going to finals, I enjoy when we finish 4th or better and I enjoy qualifying for Europe every season. Only one other club in the country has done this as regularly as us in the last 8 years. Never take any of these things for granted.

-b-b-but it was 'eyebleeding' apparently.

 

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55 minutes ago, kingjoey said:

I absolutely realise that you’re taking the piss, but you know what, I enjoy going to semi finals, I enjoy going to finals, I enjoy when we finish 4th or better and I enjoy qualifying for Europe every season. Only one other club in the country has done this as regularly as us in the last 8 years. Never take any of these things for granted.

I think it was the right time for McInnes to leave, but I'm around 5% convinced that Glass was the right man to replace him. 

All this 'you must play wonderful football' order from Cormack is fine, but the first task of any manager has to be to make sure you don't lose games. McInnes was instantly very good at that, giving us a solid base to build on.

Glass honestly seems not to have a clue. We just keep on making the same mistakes week after week. 

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15 minutes ago, Bob Mahelp said:

I think it was the right time for McInnes to leave, but I'm around 5% convinced that Glass was the right man to replace him. 

All this 'you must play wonderful football' order from Cormack is fine, but the first task of any manager has to be to make sure you don't lose games. McInnes was instantly very good at that, giving us a solid base to build on.

Glass honestly seems not to have a clue. We just keep on making the same mistakes week after week. 

We were doing exactly the same things last season under McInnes. I.e. conceeding cheap goals through individual errors, and failing to score despite often having far more of the ball.

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26 minutes ago, Bob Mahelp said:

I think it was the right time for McInnes to leave, but I'm around 5% convinced that Glass was the right man to replace him. 

All this 'you must play wonderful football' order from Cormack is fine, but the first task of any manager has to be to make sure you don't lose games. McInnes was instantly very good at that, giving us a solid base to build on.

Glass honestly seems not to have a clue. We just keep on making the same mistakes week after week. 

5% more than me then.

 

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13 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said:

Lads, I loved Derek. He was a sexy b*****d up until he let himself go a bit and his hair towards the end got greasy. 

But he was sacked because of results ultimately, not the style of play. 

He was sacked because he didn't get on with an interfering chairman he regarded as a fool.

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10 minutes ago, Game of throw-ins said:

He was sacked because he didn't get on with an interfering chairman he regarded as a fool.

Last season was a shambles that he refused to own. Panicked recruitment in January showed he had lost it. 

He wouldn't have lasted as long if the fans had been in the stadium 

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17 minutes ago, Game of throw-ins said:

He was sacked because he didn't get on with an interfering chairman he regarded as a fool.

Tbh I should never have engaged in a mcinnes debate again. It’s not something I want. 

Therefore I’ll leave you to it. 

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8 minutes ago, scoobles said:

Last season was a shambles that he refused to own. Panicked recruitment in January showed he had lost it. 

He wouldn't have lasted as long if the fans had been in the stadium 

Cormack was directly responsible for the panicked recruitment in January.  He refused to authorise spending on what was obviously necessary recruitment right up to the eleventh hour.  That was a deliberate reluctance to to support a manager he wanted rid of by then because they were not getting along.  He finally chickened out of not backing McInnes at all because it would have made it so obvious that he was trying to undermine his own manager, but by the time McInnes got the go ahead to do anything he was reduced to rushing around panic-signing long shots.

McInnes was not normally the type to take his problems to the media but he was so pissed off by this he complained publicly. From The Times on 12 February:

Derek McInnes unhappy about late transfer ‘scramble’

Derek McInnes has expressed frustration at Aberdeen’s work in the January transfer window, insisting that he did not want all their business to be done on deadline day.

 

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2 minutes ago, Game of throw-ins said:

Cormack was directly responsible for the panicked recruitment in January.  He refused to authorise spending on what was obviously necessary recruitment right up to the eleventh hour.  That was a deliberate reluctance to to support a manager he wanted rid of by then because they were not getting along.  He finally chickened out of not backing McInnes at all because it would have made it so obvious that he was trying to undermine his own manager, but by the time McInnes got the go ahead to do anything he was reduced to rushing around panic-signing long shots.

McInnes was not normally the type to take his problems to the media but he was so pissed off by this he complained publicly. From The Times on 12 February:

Derek McInnes unhappy about late transfer ‘scramble’

Derek McInnes has expressed frustration at Aberdeen’s work in the January transfer window, insisting that he did not want all their business to be done on deadline day.

 

Ok Derek. 

How's the job hunting going? 

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3 hours ago, kingjoey said:

I absolutely realise that you’re taking the piss, but you know what, I enjoy going to semi finals, I enjoy going to finals, I enjoy when we finish 4th or better and I enjoy qualifying for Europe every season. Only one other club in the country has done this as regularly as us in the last 8 years. Never take any of these things for granted.

That's because we've been starved off anything akin to it for the 25 years or so previous, so regular top 4 finishes, semi finals, the occasionally final and six weeks in the European qualifiers did feel better than anything in recent memory although it wasn't up against much.

I think if we were a well run club in good hands we could do even better though than those eight years.

Unfortunately, we weren't under Milne and the signs are looking ominous with regards Cormack's qualities as club chairman.

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8 minutes ago, Bogbrush1903 said:

That's because we've been starved off anything akin to it for the 25 years or so previous, so regular top 4 finishes, semi finals, the occasionally final and six weeks in the European qualifiers did feel better than anything in recent memory although it wasn't up against much.

I think if we were a well run club in good hands we could do even better though than those eight years.

Unfortunately, we weren't under Milne and the signs are looking ominous with regards Cormack's qualities as club chairman.

We were a reasonably well run club under Milne. Basically the bulk of vocal fans appear to hate their owners. Celtic win everything in sight, but lots of Celtic fans wanted rid of Lawwell. Aberdeen fans didn’t like Milne because he didn’t do enough, and now Aberdeen fans don’t like Cormack because he’s doing too much. You just cannae win.

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If we'd kept McInnes where do people think we would have been today? Probably would have ended up with a similar caliber of signings? I think we'd have got past Raith and be losing to Celtic tonight in the LC and roughly the same in the league? 

Hopefully Glass has us on an upswing soon

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39 minutes ago, kingjoey said:

We were a reasonably well run club under Milne. Basically the bulk of vocal fans appear to hate their owners. Celtic win everything in sight, but lots of Celtic fans wanted rid of Lawwell. Aberdeen fans didn’t like Milne because he didn’t do enough, and now Aberdeen fans don’t like Cormack because he’s doing too much. You just cannae win.

We became a better run club when Willie & Elaine Donald wrote off the 12 million debt that Milne had amassed and didn't want to pay off himself. That debt was hindering the progress of the club.

Milne wanted out long before he left and wasn't prepared to throw anymore money at it, which is fair enough as the club should be self financing.

The Donalds had paid off the debt by the time McInnes arrives and he, in addition to the struggles of some of our rivals, finds himself in an environment more favourable than any Aberdeen manager has had in the last 30 years.

That doesn't mean we were a reasonably well run club under Milne himself though.

If he isn't starting to think on these terms yet, then I'm sure it won't be long before Cormack thinks about bailing out. He won't want to be here for the long term. He'll realise soon enough that he doesn't need the hassle.

What happens to Aberdeen after that remains to be seen but the club needs to live within its means to survive. We've far too much players in the squad at the moment, and too many that aren't contributing but are still taking significant funds out of the club.

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Bogbrush1903 said:

We became a better run club when Willie & Elaine Donald wrote off the 12 million debt that Milne had amassed and didn't want to pay off himself. That debt was hindering the progress of the club.

Milne wanted out long before he left and wasn't prepared to throw anymore money at it, which is fair enough as the club should be self financing.

The Donalds had paid off the debt by the time McInnes arrives and he, in addition to the struggles of some of our rivals, finds himself in an environment more favourable than any Aberdeen manager has had in the last 30 years.

That doesn't mean we were a reasonably well run club under Milne himself though.

If he isn't starting to think on these terms yet, then I'm sure it won't be long before Cormack thinks about bailing out. He won't want to be here for the long term. He'll realise soon enough that he doesn't need the hassle.

What happens to Aberdeen after that remains to be seen but the club needs to live within its means to survive. We've far too much players in the squad at the moment, and too many that aren't contributing but are still taking significant funds out of the club.

 

 

 

Despite evidence to the contrary, every single one of us would take the role on if we had the wealth.

I'd rather have a progressive, egotist, than Milne.

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