The Famous Aberdeen - Season 2022/23

[snafu10]

1 hour ago, fatshaft said:

Sadly, twitters and facebook full of folk who think the world begins and ends with fitba. Apparently calling Cormack out on this shite makes us pitiful, and a disgrace. To be fair also though, as you say those with a brain are not letting the club off lightly. 

Mate, it's only SNP ultras or at least closet ultras who've taken criticism of the rejection as a political attack on their party and truly thrown their toys out the pram. They number a few hundred at most. No one else gives a f**k and lots are supportive of the pressure and effort. 

The naesayers also never know what the hygiene and distancing measures at the events are and start saying things like how will they get there, they'll bunch up, what else will they do that day?

The stupidity of the requirement to be in tier 1 for fans to be allowed is that far more things such as pubs indoors and outdoors are open which also leads to much more people shopping etc., therefore there's more stuff for them to do that day and many times more people will be on transport or in venues at the same time. There is in fact less transmission risk for fans to attend when less is open in higher tiers.

[Rodhull]

Devlin injured again.

 

[coprolite]

1 minute ago, Rodhull said:

Devlin injured again.

 

Next stop glue factory 

[Dons_1988]

3 minutes ago, snafu10 said:

Mate, it's only SNP ultras or at least closet ultras who've taken criticism of the rejection as a political attack on their party and truly thrown their toys out the pram. They number a few hundred at most. No one else gives a f**k and lots are supportive of the pressure and effort. 

The naesayers also never know what the hygiene and distancing measures at the events are and start saying things like how will they get there, they'll bunch up, what else will they do that day?

The stupidity of the requirement to be in tier 1 for fans to be allowed is that far more things such as pubs indoors and outdoors are open which also leads to much more people shopping etc., therefore there's more stuff for them to do that day and many times more people will be on transport or in venues at the same time. There is in fact less transmission risk for fans to attend when less is open in higher tiers.

There's a sensible discussion to be had about the merits/risk of fans returning to football in a controlled manner.

It's Cormack's methods that are questionable, and he is undoubtedly trying to rabble rouse football fans.

[Rodhull]

9 minutes ago, coprolite said:

Next stop glue factory 

I think he’s out of contract in the Summer? Hard to see him being offered a new one even if he comes back in March and remains fit for the rest of the season.

He’ll then no doubt go somewhere else and remain injury free for two years.

[snafu10]

8 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said:

There's a sensible discussion to be had about the merits/risk of fans returning to football in a controlled manner.

It's Cormack's methods that are questionable, and he is undoubtedly trying to rabble rouse football fans.

I've heard for months from friends of directors and the SLO of their efforts to get fans in. It feels like an eternity to me and I haven't been doing the work. They've done everything they can, jumped through every hoop and done hugely detailed plans, repeatedly get knocked back with no explanation and no agreement to a meeting to plan for the future. He's now just on a vandetta against Leitch and co for being lead on (see the path out of lockdown published in July) then fobbed off.

It's all very well saying get to tier 1, when no c**t knows what you have to do to get to tier 1. We were sitting between 30-40 cases per 100,000 for a good while and were kept in tier 2. For Aberdeen that's around 10 cases a day. With a population density of 9,080 per square mile and hundreds of thousands going to work or education every day, that's a really fucking low rate which is unreasonable to expect any better without a full lockdown stopping work and education. We're now recording about 20 cases a day and there's talk of going UP to level 3 ffs. 

We're not going to get to level 1, so there's no fucking use in them replying to Cormack telling us we can't have a single fan in the stadium until then. Cormack wants fans in tier 2 but is getting told flat out no. Which approach will change that?

[fatshaft]

6 minutes ago, snafu10 said:

He's now just on a vandetta against Leitch and co for being lead on (see the path out of lockdown published in July) then fobbed off.

 

There's no doubt about that, at least you're sensible enough to admit it. 

Edited December 10, 2020 by fatshaft

[coprolite]

26 minutes ago, Rodhull said:

I think he’s out of contract in the Summer? Hard to see him being offered a new one even if he comes back in March and remains fit for the rest of the season.

He’ll then no doubt go somewhere else and remain injury free for two years.

He's been struggling to get a game when fit so it doesn’t seem like he'll get a new deal. Shame, because he looked promising at first. 

[snafu10]

Good article with Cormack explaining his anger. He's said before if one person caught Covid from going to Pittodrie he'd stop the whole thing. He has everyone's, especially the elderly including his relatives', safety as top priority. He's shovelling money in every month to keep everyone's salaries paid. The c**t's a multi hundred millionaire and is trying to co-ordinate all this from his home in America. But some people think he's just a tory b*****d trying to damage their party. They're definitely the ones with brains.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/scottish-footballs-isolated-depressed-fans-23143484

[fatshaft]

8 minutes ago, snafu10 said:

 But some people think he's just a tory b*****d trying to damage their party. They're definitely the ones with brains.

 

See that's where you're wrong, folk are angry because they can see an end now in sight with the vaccine on the way, but that's not enough for Dave-the-Ego, he wants the limelight, to be the one who sorted it all out, in what has clearly been two rabble rousing, pitchfork invoking tweets. Honestly he can f**k off right now. 

But as you say, we're the ones with brains right enough. 

[DukDukGoose]

I mean we had an incident last month where football fans weren't able to behave themselves. Why would that change in the stadium?

[betting competition]

25 minutes ago, snafu10 said:

It's all very well saying get to tier 1, when no c**t knows what you have to do to get to tier 1. We were sitting between 30-40 cases per 100,000 for a good while and were kept in tier 2. For Aberdeen that's around 10 cases a day. With a population density of 9,080 per square mile and hundreds of thousands going to work or education every day, that's a really fucking low rate which is unreasonable to expect any better without a full lockdown stopping work and education. We're now recording about 20 cases a day and there's talk of going UP to level 3 ffs. 

We're not going to get to level 1, so there's no fucking use in them replying to Cormack telling us we can't have a single fan in the stadium until then. Cormack wants fans in tier 2 but is getting told flat out no. Which approach will change that?

There was a case to say Aberdeenshire should have been put into tier 1 about a month ago but Aberdeen was a bit too high to move. Aberdeen was over 50 yesterday but i would say on average they are nearer 30 a day. Today figures are not so bad - https://www.travellingtabby.com/scotland-coronavirus-tracker/local 

 

 

[snafu10]

1 minute ago, fatshaft said:

See that's where you're wrong, folk are angry because they can see an end now in sight with the vaccine on the way, but that's not enough for Dave-the-Ego, he wants the limelight, to be the one who sorted it all out, in what has clearly been two rabble rousing, pitchfork invoking tweets. Honestly he can f**k off right now. 

But as you say, we're the ones with brains right enough. 

How long it will take to administer the vaccine to the population then? When will it be safe to return to stadiums in what numbers? I'll pass on the answers to Dave-the-Ego so he stops asking Jason for these meetings about that and writing statements. 

[The_Kincardine]

I am surprised at the general reaction to Cormack from the Dons fans on here.  We all know that club chairmen can be arses (FFS we had Dave King valuing our squad at £200M last week) but I think that 'your' Dave has had a good covid and comes across as a genuinely good guy.

If you don't want him then we'll take him when Douglas Park finally retires.

[DukDukGoose]

14 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said:

I am surprised at the general reaction to Cormack from the Dons fans on here.  We all know that club chairmen can be arses (FFS we had Dave King valuing our squad at £200M last week) but I think that 'your' Dave has had a good covid and comes across as a genuinely good guy.

If you don't want him then we'll take him when Douglas Park finally retires.

He's done a good job but he's far too fond of his own voice.

[kingjoey]

45 minutes ago, Merkland Red said:

I mean we had an incident last month where football fans weren't able to behave themselves. Why would that change in the stadium?

Simple, you don’t let Rangers or Celtic fans into their games.

[DA Baracus]

1 hour ago, snafu10 said:

I've heard for months from friends of directors and the SLO of their efforts to get fans in. It feels like an eternity to me and I haven't been doing the work. They've done everything they can, jumped through every hoop and done hugely detailed plans, repeatedly get knocked back with no explanation and no agreement to a meeting to plan for the future. He's now just on a vandetta against Leitch and co for being lead on (see the path out of lockdown published in July) then fobbed off.

It's all very well saying get to tier 1, when no c**t knows what you have to do to get to tier 1. We were sitting between 30-40 cases per 100,000 for a good while and were kept in tier 2. For Aberdeen that's around 10 cases a day. With a population density of 9,080 per square mile and hundreds of thousands going to work or education every day, that's a really fucking low rate which is unreasonable to expect any better without a full lockdown stopping work and education. We're now recording about 20 cases a day and there's talk of going UP to level 3 ffs. 

We're not going to get to level 1, so there's no fucking use in them replying to Cormack telling us we can't have a single fan in the stadium until then. Cormack wants fans in tier 2 but is getting told flat out no. Which approach will change that?

It has been explained to him, many times, why his nonsense proposals were knocked back. That's one lie right away. 

The transmission rates change, which is why there can't be firm timescales. It's also why Aberdeen city is still at a higher tier as rates haven't been low enough for long enough. This is reviewed regularly though. You don't have to 'do' anything to Tier 1 other than the usual stuff, but an area is limited in what it can do, so often it's down to luck that folk don't do daft things that would increase transmissions.

No approach will change fans not being allowed in Tier 2. Cormack will simply have to accept that. Since no firm timescales can be put on when places move to different tiers and when things will change overall, what is the point in more meetings to hear Cormack bleat on about the same things? He and Aberdeen are ready to go when they are allowed. What will further meetings achieve?

[DukDukGoose]

3 minutes ago, kingjoey said:

Simple, you don’t let Rangers or Celtic fans into their games.

Don't know how many of the guys in Draft Project were old firm fans Joey.

[kingjoey]

1 hour ago, Dons_1988 said:

There's a sensible discussion to be had about the merits/risk of fans returning to football in a controlled manner.

It's Cormack's methods that are questionable, and he is undoubtedly trying to rabble rouse football fans.

Regardless of what you think of Cormack’s way of trying to take getting fans back into stadiums, there was one point on which he took issue with what Jason Leitch said where he is undoubtedly correct. Cormack said that our test event against Killie went without a hitch, but in response to that Leitch said that there was no way that you could tell where someone caught Covid. Quite rightly Cormack came back to Leitch saying that you can be 100% certain that no one on the Pittodrie test event caught it, because you can follow up with all of the 300 attendees. Leitch just couldn’t bring himself to admit that the event was a success. Why not? Is that not the point in having test events? I take it that Leitch was devastated that it was a success.

[kingjoey]

16 minutes ago, Merkland Red said:

Don't know how many of the guys in Draft Project were old firm fans Joey.

Do you know how many in Draft Project go to football matches? Strange to use people in a “pub” as an argument for not letting folk into football grounds.