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7 hours ago, AngusTheBull said:

He has already turned down Sunderland for being a complete shambles, considering they are even more of a mess now than then, this won’t happen.

You'd have to be desperate, or wanting a payoff in a few months, to take that Sunderland job. Jack Ross wasn't amazing at Sunderland but started to turn them round and it still wasn't good enough.. Parkinson couldn't improve them after that. After rejecting it before McInnes will be wary of wrong club, wrong time- even if he was thinking of a new challenge you don't think you'd pick that one.  

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McInnes has earned the right to leave on his own terms IMO and I think he'll leave at the end of his current contract.

It's a strange position for him though as I don't think his stock is as high as it was and can't see him getting a significantly bigger club now.

Maybe if Gerrard left Rangers and it aligned well with McInnes leaving Aberdeen at the same time then he'd probably end up there.

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On 28/11/2020 at 22:10, RandomGuy. said:

Yes.

I'm not claiming Davidson is a better manager, or will even be a success for us, but the football under TW had become an absolute slog to watch, and it often felt like the whole idea was simply to counter our opponents plans.

I'd actually argue that our nicest football under TW took place during his last few months in charge. The first lockdown came at an inconvenient time for us. However, looking back in hindsight, it now appears that TW knew he was leaving at that point. He possibly adopted the attractive new style (which was uncharacteristic for him) in preparation for a new era.

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I’m not advocating for Derek to be sacked FWIW

I don’t think it should or will happen. Would be financial negligence for one thing.

It is possible to be appreciative of what he’s done at the club and still feel we could do with a change of pace.

We are ready for a change, his contract is probably a year too long as parting ways at the end of this season may have been ideal but hey ho, he’s probably here until 2022

I’ve made my peace with that and ‘McInnes Out’ bores on SM who spout shite every time  we concede a corner should do that as well.

We have an interesting run of fixtures in December, all very winnable but some real banana skins as well

He really needs a good December to give us momentum for the final part of the season 

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When you say “the last month” what you really mean is the last week. Nobody was complaining about the football up until the Rangers game a week ago today. I know that you are trying to make your case sound more plausible by using “the last month” but it really isn’t. No doubt you will use the semi final in your argument, but the reality is that over the 90 minutes plus, it wasn’t a bad performance, but two teams trying to win the game and we  lost out on the day. To dress it up as anything else is called having an agenda.

 

Perhaps disingenuous of me to use month when in reality a big chunk was taken up by the national team but equally it's not an agenda to be unhappy with things. The semi, we did alright but struggled to create much clear cut, which have seen a number of times over the years at Hampden.

 

All I am saying is that we have underperformed over the last two years and given what DM is getting paid, I expect better than what has been served up in recent times.

 

Mitigating circumstances are that we are without a lot of key players so I accept that and I accept being hugely annoyed by the missed opportunity. However I am worried about the failure to adapt to the loss of Watkins and the abject nature of the last week in terms of surrendering too easily.

 

I don't think it is unfair to expect better given the resources at our disposal.

 

Remain ever hopeful and thankfully having removed myself from twitter, I am glad to have missed some no doubt heavy and unwarranted abuse dished out there.

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4 hours ago, DrewDon said:

I think Derek McInnes is about as likely as Neil Lennon to be the next Rangers manager. 

Yeah, he’s totally burned his bridges on that one given the manner he so publicly (deliciously) rejected them last time. 

 

I think he will head at the end of his contract, I don’t see him getting sacked (nor would he deserve to be) unless things went dramatically tits up and we were floating about the end of the table normally occupied by Hearts. However, I can’t see Cormack offering him a contract extension, and think both sides could benefit from a bit of a freshening up.

 

He 100% deserves criticism for the cup game at the weekend. However, some of the abuse for the game away to them is fairly hysterical, it went the only way it would ever go given the circumstances.

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It isn't going to happen, as much as I want it to. 

Don't agree with comments regarding him being daft to take it. We weren't exactly in a brilliant position when he took over us. 

I bet he's thought about it again though.  All he'd have to do is nurse his way into the play offs. My Sunderland supporting colleague has said they've got half their squad OOC in the summer. Perfect opportunity to bring in a large number of players he would want. 

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On 30/11/2020 at 22:45, AngusTheBull said:

Yeah, he’s totally burned his bridges on that one given the manner he so publicly (deliciously) rejected them last time. 

"Don once,never again" thread for this pish.

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Change of subject here, but there's a lovely article on afc.co.uk about Bobby Wishart, the last surviving member of the 1955 championship winning team who has now sadly passed away. 

Different days indeed. It's an engrossing read though. RIP Bobby. 

 https://www.afc.co.uk/2020/12/03/in-memoriam-bobby-wishart/?utm_source=Aberdeen+FC&utm_campaign=5a74afc9a2-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2020_12_04_09_49&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_697f4dd8c9-5a74afc9a2-89733951

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I couldn't care less if this is classed as an overreaction but I found it very hard to explain to my wife why I needed to pay for three season tickets to watch games I could stream for free and also become an AberDNA member.

Unless things take a drastic turn then it's a decision I won't be needing to make next season.

 

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42 minutes ago, Merkland Red said:

I couldn't care less if this is classed as an overreaction but I found it very hard to explain to my wife why I needed to pay for three season tickets to watch games I could stream for free and also become an AberDNA member.

Unless things take a drastic turn then it's a decision I won't be needing to make next season.

 

We’ve had a bad fortnight after a strong start to the season. some worrying signs but you’re hitting the outrage button way too early I’m afraid. 

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4 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said:

We’ve had a bad fortnight after a strong start to the season. some worrying signs but you’re hitting the outrage button way too early I’m afraid. 

Yip. I've watched awful football for 2 and a 1/2 years bar a 2 month spell where we mostly played some decent stuff. Cool.

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This has been a pretty awful couple of weeks. I understand that there are injuries and the covid didn't help but this is supposed to be our strongest squad in years. Yet, McInnes has insisted on playing people out of position in the last few weeks.
I've vociferously defended McInnes over the past couple of seasons but we've arguably been quite fortunate to get away with 2 points against the two worst teams in the league. There is no point in absolutely battering Hibs if we can't get more than two points from Hamilton and St Mirren.
This run of fixtures was a great opportunity to pile up points, 8 fixtures in a row without playing anyone any good. Need to start getting some points from these games.

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1 hour ago, Merkland Red said:

Yip. I've watched awful football for 2 and a 1/2 years bar a 2 month spell where we mostly played some decent stuff. Cool.

Don’t let me stop you having your tantrum. You’ve earned it. 

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Two games against St Mirren and one against Hamilton 
Two draws and a cup exit
It’s absolutely shite no matter how you dress it up 


Struggle to disagree with this.

In the wider scheme of things, I get folk think things need freshens up, but we’re going to have results like these over time no matter who the manager is. The “budget” argument holds more water over the course of the season rather than necessarily individual games, as we’ve no right to demand anything against Sevco/Timmy if we demand to beat Accies and St Mirren every time regardless of circumstances.

Can sack him tomorrow, pay the £1m + plus whatever it takes to get a new gaffer in, but as long as either of/both the cheeks are semi competent then we’re probably not going to have trophy laden season after trophy laden season or finish above 3rd - the gap between where we are now roughly and where we can realistically get to isn’t huge IMO.

We aren’t as bad as people make out and neither is McInnes - people going completely over the score and calling him a fraud etc just undermines the more reasonable arguments about things going a bit stale in the last year or too.

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2 hours ago, Dons_1988 said:

Don’t let me stop you having your tantrum. You’ve earned it. 

Fantastic. Rather than actually make a point you just decide to condescend. 

I'd begun to type something out regarding the strong start to the season but there's little point when you're not going to bother with it.

He literally could not have hand picked three better fixtures to play after the Rangers game and we've made an arse of it. 

"A point with ten men is a good result." Not when you should have been behind long before the red it's not. He's effectively blaming the ref's decision.

 

 

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1 hour ago, anotherchance said:

 


Struggle to disagree with this.

In the wider scheme of things, I get folk think things need freshens up, but we’re going to have results like these over time no matter who the manager is. The “budget” argument holds more water over the course of the season rather than necessarily individual games, as we’ve no right to demand anything against Sevco/Timmy if we demand to beat Accies and St Mirren every time regardless of circumstances.

Can sack him tomorrow, pay the £1m + plus whatever it takes to get a new gaffer in, but as long as either of/both the cheeks are semi competent then we’re probably not going to have trophy laden season after trophy laden season or finish above 3rd - the gap between where we are now roughly and where we can realistically get to isn’t huge IMO.

We aren’t as bad as people make out and neither is McInnes - people going completely over the score and calling him a fraud etc just undermines the more reasonable arguments about things going a bit stale in the last year or too.

 

I agree with this for the most part but it's unfair to have a go at the bams. They're allowed an opinion. They think we should be beating Hamilton/St Mirren every time whilst also thinking we should be beating Celtic/Rangers every time. We also have the opposite side of the coin where some folk don't like to use the 'budget' argument when we drop points to the lesser teams but are more than happy to use it when we struggle against the Old Firm.

He's surrounded himself with a coaching team where nobody challenges him. They're all secure in their jobs and unless something drastic happens then none of them are going to go any higher than this level.

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Alan Nixon reporting that Newcastle are keen on Cosgrove. I mean, on recent form, a move straight to the Premier League would be nothing short of a miracle for Sam - and I say that as someone who rates him quite highly. 

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