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35 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said:

No. I was always staunchly of the opinion Jayden was unfairly hounded out.

Boy just couldn't control his elbows.

ETA -not always a bad thing

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Aye, I've got him in 16/17 slightly better than Cosgrove 18/19, 19/20, which ill admit doesn't feel right to me.

Just curious how folk felt about him. I've got him as your best striker in terms of "goals p90" from 16/17 to today.

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1 hour ago, RandomGuy. said:

Aye, I've got him in 16/17 slightly better than Cosgrove 18/19, 19/20, which ill admit doesn't feel right to me.

Just curious how folk felt about him. I've got him as your best striker in terms of "goals p90" from 16/17 to today.

He was decent, young and fitted the mcinnes target man striker mould. His goal against partick at firhill was a glimpse of what he could do. 
However he had multiple needless red cards and missed a sitter at ibrox at 0-0 which he just never recovered from. 

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4 hours ago, Rodhull said:

Not good news. Boy has no luck at all.

It's truly fucking unbelievable how many injuries this boy has had. 

The club is cursed at this point in time...all we need is for Hedges to get a leg break tomorrow and we're back to a Craig Brown XI.

 

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20 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said:

He was decent, young and fitted the mcinnes target man striker mould. His goal against partick at firhill was a glimpse of what he could do. 
However he had multiple needless red cards and missed a sitter at ibrox at 0-0 which he just never recovered from. 

Was his goal against Partick a long-range lobbed volley? Or have i made that up? 

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Just now, coprolite said:

Was his goal against Partick a long-range lobbed volley? Or have i made that up? 

Think you’ve maybe made up that it was a volley. 

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1 minute ago, Dons_1988 said:

Think you’ve maybe made up that it was a volley. 

Sometimes i get reality confused with what i think should have happened. 

Don't do drugs kids. Especially not lots of acid. 

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25 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said:

He was decent, young and fitted the mcinnes target man striker mould. His goal against partick at firhill was a glimpse of what he could do. 
However he had multiple needless red cards and missed a sitter at ibrox at 0-0 which he just never recovered from. 

Aye. Was also a bit of an arse allegedly.

He was being given starts when a large percentage of our fanbase were yet to realise Rooney was past it.

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3 hours ago, coprolite said:

Not much the club can do to stop them if their minds are made up. Hopefully they aren't though.

We'd get compensation for either this season, i think we'd lose that for Wright next year. It might be better financially to let him go this year if he wants to than to have a short term deal. Obviously a longer contract works better for the club but there'll be more to negotiate on that. 

I think you're being a bit harsh on Fraser. I don't recall him being duplicitous. I do recall him looking out for number one though, so f**k him anyway.

He lied to the club about some nonsense about losing his wallet as a reason for missing training, when in reality he was down in Bournemouth signing a pre-contract. His actions recently over Covid and the manner in which he left Bournemouth were perhaps even worse. He's shown himself to be the absolute definition of a modern footballer (that's not a complement).

Still not as much of a fucking dug wanking, rat b*****d as Jack though.

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4 minutes ago, Illgresi said:

He lied to the club about some nonsense about losing his wallet as a reason for missing training, when in reality he was down in Bournemouth signing a pre-contract. His actions recently over Covid and the manner in which he left Bournemouth were perhaps even worse. He's shown himself to be the absolute definition of a modern footballer (that's not a complement).

Still not as much of a fucking dug wanking, rat b*****d as Jack though.

His decision to not sign with Bournemouth cost us far more than his decision to not sign with us didn't it? Vaguely remember the wallet story but didn't realise that was related to him going to Bournemouth. 

Jack was very definitely a lying p***k- worse than David Robertson in my book. 

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2 minutes ago, coprolite said:

His decision to not sign with Bournemouth cost us far more than his decision to not sign with us didn't it? Vaguely remember the wallet story but didn't realise that was related to him going to Bournemouth. 

Jack was very definitely a lying p***k- worse than David Robertson in my book. 

Very definitely cost us more, given the shape of the club at the time I think we'd have caved for a handful of magic beans.

Don't remember Robertson too well as I was only 7 when he moved, but at least he got us a fee.

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4 hours ago, RandomGuy. said:

Would i be daft to claim Jayden Stockley was a good player for you lot in 2016/17?

Quite like a lot of big target man types, he struggled to win over many of our fans - and was often chief scapegoat. This is because a lot of our mainstream social media types always need  one, even when things are going well.  A couple of high profile missed chances vs the uglies didn't help.

I liked him - get the right service in and there was a fair chance he'd win it - recall him being unplayable in the Maribor home tie, where Rooney kept missing sitters set up by Jayden terrorising their defence.  Then in the away leg, he was a the victim of the scandalous Bulgarian referee and was red carded - and he kind of started getting a similar bad rep here, especially when wonderkid Kieran was floored by him.

The fact Exeter sold him for a seven-figure sum into the Championship a year after him leaving us tells its own story.

 

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1 hour ago, tarapoa said:

Quite like a lot of big target man types, he struggled to win over many of our fans - and was often chief scapegoat. This is because a lot of our mainstream social media types always need  one, even when things are going well.  A couple of high profile missed chances vs the uglies didn't help.

I liked him - get the right service in and there was a fair chance he'd win it - recall him being unplayable in the Maribor home tie, where Rooney kept missing sitters set up by Jayden terrorising their defence.  Then in the away leg, he was a the victim of the scandalous Bulgarian referee and was red carded - and he kind of started getting a similar bad rep here, especially when wonderkid Kieran was floored by him.

The fact Exeter sold him for a seven-figure sum into the Championship a year after him leaving us tells its own story.

 

I've adjusted my shit again, to equate for strikers who are setting up high quality chances for team mates, and yer man Cosgrove has now overtaken him.

He still comes out well though.

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*Stewart 18/19 includes his time at Kilmarnock.

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Jayden was like a modern day/social media version of Ernie Winchester.

Ok, maybe not, big Ernie was a lot better, but he was similarly hammered for the slightest of missed chances.

Actually forget that Ernie had something like 70 goals in about 150 games, kill for that strike rage these days but he was the “boo boy” for a while

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3 hours ago, Illgresi said:

His actions recently over Covid and the manner in which he left Bournemouth were perhaps even worse.

This is when he didn't sign an extension to his contract at a club that was likely to be relegated, then let his contract expire, then signed for another club?  I never quite got why that was considered so controversial TBH, seems pretty normal.  

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48 minutes ago, Raidernation said:

Jayden was like a modern day/social media version of Ernie Winchester.

Ok, maybe not, big Ernie was a lot better, but he was similarly hammered for the slightest of missed chances.

Actually forget that Ernie had something like 70 goals in about 150 games, kill for that strike rage these days but he was the “boo boy” for a while

Ernie Winchester was the first Dons scapegoat that I can remember.

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30 minutes ago, resk said:

This is when he didn't sign an extension to his contract at a club that was likely to be relegated, then let his contract expire, then signed for another club?  I never quite got why that was considered so controversial TBH, seems pretty normal.  

It wasn’t quite like that. His contract expired in June and the club asked him to sign, like loads of other players in England did, a short term extension to the end of the elongated season and then he would still have been free to find another club. But he didn’t want to in case he got injured, which could happen at any time anyway. He then made things a lot worse after Bournemouth had been relegated by saying that if had stayed with the club to the end of the actual season, he would have kept them up. Good luck to him if he ever has to play in Bournemouth again in front of fans.

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19 minutes ago, kingjoey said:

It wasn’t quite like that. His contract expired in June and the club asked him to sign, like loads of other players in England did, a short term extension to the end of the elongated season and then he would still have been free to find another club. But he didn’t want to in case he got injured, which could happen at any time anyway. He then made things a lot worse after Bournemouth had been relegated by saying that if had stayed with the club to the end of the actual season, he would have kept them up. Good luck to him if he ever has to play in Bournemouth again in front of fans.

Just found the quote I guess you are referring to.  "I think I would have helped massively" or something of that ilk.  Quickly spun into "I would have kept them up" (apologies if there is an actual "I would have kept them up" quote that I have missed, I just did a quick search).  Yeah, I understand the contract extension thing... seems to be that every other player whose contract expired in June signed an extension, so he must too?  

I kinda get your point, and it seems to be the prevailing opinion, but I pretty much disagree.  He did the work he was contracted to do for his employer, declined an extension, then moved on to a new employer.  All the rest of it just seems to be standard issue fitba fans working themselves up in to a rage for no real reason, and projecting a higher standard of behaviour on to fitba players because .... well I don't actually know why... they're highly paid?   They're in the public eye?  

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1 hour ago, kingjoey said:

Ernie Winchester was the first Dons scapegoat that I can remember.

I mind Davie "The Brush" Robb used to get it large in the early to mid seventies from the support. 

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8 hours ago, resk said:

Just found the quote I guess you are referring to.  "I think I would have helped massively" or something of that ilk.  Quickly spun into "I would have kept them up" (apologies if there is an actual "I would have kept them up" quote that I have missed, I just did a quick search).  Yeah, I understand the contract extension thing... seems to be that every other player whose contract expired in June signed an extension, so he must too?  

I kinda get your point, and it seems to be the prevailing opinion, but I pretty much disagree.  He did the work he was contracted to do for his employer, declined an extension, then moved on to a new employer.  All the rest of it just seems to be standard issue fitba fans working themselves up in to a rage for no real reason, and projecting a higher standard of behaviour on to fitba players because .... well I don't actually know why... they're highly paid?   They're in the public eye?  

I apologise if you are a relation or friend of Ryan, but you’re really going out of your way to defend him. I suppose the simplistic way to look at it is that, again by his own admission, he was one of the reasons and part of the team that got Bournemouth into the situation that they were in, which was not irretrievable. So he should have signed the extension to try to help them out. When he signed his original contract it was supposed to be to the end of season 2019/20, so in my mind he certainly left Bournemouth in the shit.

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