rambunctious Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Jeeeezuss this is thread is embarrassing. We both had good seasons. Any right thinking Dons fan would admit that coming second twice in a row is decent going, and any right thinking 'Well fan would say that coming third and winning a cup is also decent going! Imagine if the roles were reversed, you'd both still be arguing your achievement was better! Yikes min! Agreed. I think we all knew this thread would turn out this way (especially if we won). I regret nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crilly Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Jeeeezuss this is thread is embarrassing. We both had good seasons. Any right thinking Dons fan would admit that coming second twice in a row is decent going, and any right thinking 'Well fan would say that coming third and winning a cup is also decent going! Imagine if the roles were reversed, you'd both still be arguing your achievement was better! Yikes min! Good post. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La_Leyenda Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Imagine if a team had a star on their shirt for winning a tournament that doesn't even exist any more. Like the European Cup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Waldo Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Jeeeezuss this is thread is embarrassing. We both had good seasons. Any right thinking Dons fan would admit that coming second twice in a row is decent going, and any right thinking 'Well fan would say that coming third and winning a cup is also decent going! Imagine if the roles were reversed, you'd both still be arguing your achievement was better! Yikes min! Yeah, it has spiralled a bit. PS King of the diddies three times a row and it's more than 'decent' Funny, I like reminding Celtic fans that Aberdeen won two European Trophies and Aberdeen fans that they've won one real one but in the long distant past. I remember jumping about when Hewitt scored. But, let's be honest, in the recent times, our achievement is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Let's just settle this now, would you rather have: 2nd place in the league and no Cup 3rd place in the league however you've won a Cup Before you answer, remeber if you choose the first option you are a great, big liar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al B Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 If that's the question you're asking, then i'd rather the 2nd option. However...your question is flawed in the context of what it is we're happy about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 If that's the question you're asking, then i'd rather the 2nd option. However...your question is flawed in the context of what it is we're happy about. I completely understand why you lot are happy. I think Motherwell are one of the most under rated Clubs in Scotland and do not get the credit they deserve. What I don't understand is P&B going into meltdown laughing at Aberdeen fans when we've finished 3rd, have a trophy in the cabinet, we're in Europe and are looking forward to a bright future under McInnes. My seethe on Sunday lasted about as long as took me to finish my first post match pint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desp Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 My seethe on Sunday lasted about as long as took me to finish my first post match pint How it should be. Going back to your question, if it's one season only - 3rd and a cup all day long. If it's 3rd, 2nd, 2nd or 1 League Cup, I'd pick the league finishes over a League Cup win. I'd swap it all for a Scottish Cup win though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al B Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 ^^^ wot he sed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussellAnderson Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 If you ask the fans, they'll probably say the trophy is better, but ask a manager, and he'll mabye say league form is better. It's all about context. Ask a team with recent success in cups what they'd rather have, they might say league form, but with our trophy hoodoo, it was great to get the cup. Again, if you ask an older player who hasn't won anything yet (Russ, Clangers) then they'd likely say he cup, but a younger more ambitious player might rank league form above a trophy success. Either way, they're both good things! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rambunctious Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 If you ask the fans, they'll probably say the trophy is better, but ask a manager, and he'll mabye say league form is better. It's all about context. Ask a team with recent success in cups what they'd rather have, they might say league form, but with our trophy hoodoo, it was great to get the cup. Again, if you ask an older player who hasn't won anything yet (Russ, Clangers) then they'd likely say he cup, but a younger more ambitious player might rank league form above a trophy success. Either way, they're both good things! Everyone feels different, and generally they all have good reason to. BBC Alba did an interview with Stevie Hammell last week (talking about making 500 appearances for Motherwell) and he said he'd swap them all for some silverware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La_Leyenda Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Let's just settle this now, would you rather have: 2nd place in the league and no Cup 3rd place in the league however you've won a Cup Before you answer, remeber if you choose the first option you are a great, big liar. Third option should be 4th and Scottish Cup, considering that debate has already started on another thread before they've even won the cup. Or a 4th one. Lose the Ramsdens Cup final but be enjoying the journey? I'd prefer that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan09 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 I personally think this thread has been fucking glorious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rambunctious Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Third option should be 4th and Scottish Cup, considering that debate has already started on another thread before they've even won the cup. Or a 4th one. Lose the Ramsdens Cup final but be enjoying the journey? I'd prefer that one. Probably 4th place and Scottish cup, seeing as that'll get you a decent euro spot. The journey does sound good though. I've always wanted to see the world (Glebe Park, Stair Park, Bayview etc.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisGRAEME Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Probably 4th place and Scottish cup, seeing as that'll get you a decent euro spot. The journey does sound good though. I've always wanted to see the world (Glebe Park, Stair Park, Bayview etc.) I'd probaly take 11th and Scottish Cup, tbh... You are missing out on Glebe Park, great wee ground, tremendous soup. Took my girlfriend there once for Valentines day. #gent #romantic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever_blue Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 I'd probaly take 11th and Scottish Cup, tbh... so would hibs, at least they got half way there this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rambunctious Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 You are missing out on Glebe Park, great wee ground, tremendous soup. Took my girlfriend there once for Valentines day. #gent #romantic I've actually been (league cup tie a few years ago), and added it because I thought it was a cracking wee ground! Got to stand in front of the famous hedge! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swello Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Top 6 and a Scottish cup would be perfect for next season - but the real answer is "any of the above". Even after a sustained period of, from a motherwell perspective, genuine success (string of top 6 finishes, finals and semi-finals, consistent european qualification), I still can't come to expect success the following year and my expectations are already reset for next season. What Desp hints at above fits with my view - 3 years of sustained high finishes means that if, like me, you go to most games - you've been seeing your team winning a lot (we don't do draws) and really enjoying your football over a long period. Whilst they are not mutually exclusive, I'm not sure I would swap a pish season in the league and a league cup win for the type of league finish we've had the last 3 years (I know that St Mirren, Killie and Dons fans will probably disagree with that). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussellAnderson Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 If you were to ask me now what I'd prefer for next season I'd probably say league form over cup form as we've just won a cup. But for this season, and all seasons before now, cup success was really needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberDon Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Top 6 and a Scottish cup would be perfect for next season - but the real answer is "any of the above". Even after a sustained period of, from a motherwell perspective, genuine success (string of top 6 finishes, finals and semi-finals, consistent european qualification), I still can't come to expect success the following year and my expectations are already reset for next season. What Desp hints at above fits with my view - 3 years of sustained high finishes means that if, like me, you go to most games - you've been seeing your team winning a lot (we don't do draws) and really enjoying your football over a long period. Whilst they are not mutually exclusive, I'm not sure I would swap a pish season in the league and a league cup win for the type of league finish we've had the last 3 years (I know that St Mirren, Killie and Dons fans will probably disagree with that). 2 points behind Motherwell = pish league season. Aye, alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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