Mr Bairn Posted March 5, 2014 Author Share Posted March 5, 2014 Your case. Not "our". I'm a Yes voter. Apologies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Democratic deficits occur everywhere though. Texas would never vote for the Democrats, yet they still have Obama imposed on them. Are you still trolling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted March 5, 2014 Author Share Posted March 5, 2014 Are you still trolling? No, what was won with the suggestion that Texas faces a democratic deficit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted March 5, 2014 Author Share Posted March 5, 2014 We don't live in America. So you think Texas should be independent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted March 5, 2014 Author Share Posted March 5, 2014 We will be a laughing stock if we do indeed vote no. The Irish for example had to actually fight for their independence. All we need to do is cross a box in a polling booth. "Scotland is a brave nation"... "Aye right, they couldn't even vote to remove themselves from England's bosom." Right... And I suppose you take and extended lunch hour a few times a week to laugh at Quebec? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Right... And I suppose you take and extended lunch hour a few times a week to laugh at Quebec? Quebec is a province in Canada. It's not a country. Your a fud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 But are you saying that being 1 voice in 3 million is any different from being 1 voice in 40 million? Clearly. In excess of 13 times different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinkinFighter Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Right... And I suppose you take and extended lunch hour a few times a week to laugh at Quebec? Quebec were a baw hair away from winning, you can then take into consideration the spoiled ballot papers. Very dodgy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Scotland is an ancient nation that has been around for millennia. It has a reputation and history of being fearless, courageous and brave around the globe. A no vote throws all of that straight out the window for me. In places like Quebec and Catalonia, independence is arguably more about identity and cultural oppression than politics or economics. To the outside world these places aren't viewed as nations like Scotland is. Our constitutional debate is overwhelmingly about political and economic arguments. Scotland has not been around for "millennia". It came into existence in the 800s. It is only one millenium old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 When cameron et al wins his referendum to pull the UK out of europe in 2017, there will be another indy ref in Scotland within 3 yrs with a guaranteed yes vote. With regards to the immediate future i will personally challenge every no voter who sings flower of scotland, think 3rd verse, in hampden or murrayfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supras Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Leave the country. Although I will be out of the country anyway when the vote takes place. And when the result comes in. And for more than a year afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted March 5, 2014 Author Share Posted March 5, 2014 Scotland is an ancient nation that has been around for millennia. It has a reputation and history of being fearless, courageous and brave around the globe. A no vote throws all of that straight out the window for me. In places like Quebec and Catalonia, independence is arguably more about identity and cultural suppression than politics or economics. To the outside world these places aren't viewed as nations like Scotland is. Our constitutional debate is overwhelmingly about political and economic arguments. Word salad. Quebec and Catalonia are structural land masses containing indigenous people. The fact that Scotland has a football team doesn't differentiate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todders Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 I'll be submitting my application for Australian citizenship pretty certain in the fact that I will never come back to live in Scotland. I would not want to live in a country that has shown no balls and even less brains. Scotland will be neutered and humiliated for at least a generation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumper Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 For various reasons I'll likely be on my way out of the country for a few years in either case. As such it's more likely to have an effect on whether I feel like coming back. I've little desire to raise a family in what will be a permanently ghettoised corner of Greater London. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Acquire an Irish passport, emigrate to Canada and tell everyone my ancestors fought and died for their political independence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Goodness me, with all these separatists leaving the country after the no vote in September there is going to be no need for another referendum in 20 years or so, there's only going to be no voters left! What a shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todders Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Most normal people wouldn't see plane loads of people of whatever political persuasion leaving to never come back as a positive thing. Especially in a country that is already struggling to grow its population. But that's unionism for you - happy for the nation to be damaged as long as it's flying the correct flag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted March 5, 2014 Author Share Posted March 5, 2014 Most normal people wouldn't see plane loads of people of whatever political persuasion leaving to never come back as a positive thing. Especially in a country that is already struggling to grow its population. But that's unionism for you - happy for the nation to be damaged as long as it's flying the correct flag. Except that only a couple of hundred hard liners will actually leave.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todders Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 If things keep going like they are going now then a lot more than that will leave. Why do you think Scotland has a static population? It's not because we're doing less shagging. It's because so many people have had to leave due to lack of opportunity. Most of these people simply will not return and as the situation worsens (as I'm convinced it will if we vote no) then more and more people are going to be forced to look elsewhere for work. Fun fact - 80% of private sector jobs are being created in London. Just one small example of how fucked up and unbalanced this "union" is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joozy Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 This thread is like a delicious taster of what this forum is going to be like in a little over 6 months. I can't wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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