SHOW US YOUR DOGS!

[Zanetti]

13 hours ago, Genuine Hibs Fan said:

This is wee bonnie, my parents dog. She had a really tough early life, multiple owners and time in a home, and was a bit of wreck when they first got her c.5 years ago, always frightened and nervous. She really grew into herself and was a great, incredibly gentle little dog, and especially seemed happy when they moved back to Scotland last year.

Unfortunately, yesterday while my folks were loading up the car and she was by them some Pitbull/staffie that had got out from round the corner came into the drive and attacked her. She died on the way to the vets. My parents, and my brother who's up visiting, came to tell us last night and were obviously absolutely distraught. I feel so awful for my brother and dad who were there and tried their best, kicking and stamping it, but these are dogs that once they have a hold of something they don't let go. It must have been very traumatic for them. And poor Bonnie must have been so scared. Getting myself a bit upset just writing this out 

Police were so far pretty useless, and apparently it's someone's boyfriend who has the devil dog and he's cleared off with it immediately. Have any P&Bers seen the same thing happen or had it happen to them? Should owners of such dogs be fined and have court orders preventing them from owning dogs in the future? While it's vaguely true that "there's no such thing as bad dogs, just bad owners" is there any justification to have breeds of dogs with that level of power and inability to release something they attack as pets.

This is horrific and absolutely terrifying. I don't have any advice but you have my sympathies, poor wee thing.

[alta-pete]

18 minutes ago, thomas said:

The issue of dog attacks is the reason Cooper will be the only dog I'll ever own. There's a guy local to me who's dog has had a go at mine 3 times thankfully none ending in injury, this moron still doesn't put the dog on a lead. On the third occasion it ended with me getting Cooper indoors and heading out looking for the guy, this is spectacularly out of character for me and was a blessing I didn't find him or I'd probably have ended up in jail.

Some people just couldn't care less how their dog behaves and have no intention to try and correct their behaviour. Cooper is permanently on a lead as he isn't great with other dogs, he has come a long way from how he was when we got him even making a few friends now but it took a long time and a lot of patience from us and the other dog owners.

I love dogs and would love to always have one but the stress is too much for me when it comes to other folks attitudes.

Notwithstanding the arsehole you’ve had to deal with (once would be enough for me to see you and my point of view is based on your one short post) but I’m equivocal on this. I’m lucky that we’re fairly rural so we only trip over maybe 3/4 other dogs each time when out walking.

Our Labrador is an excitable 2yo unneutered male but (and I know all owners say this) he is no threat to anybody. But his chat up technique is a little short on finesse. 

I trust him to neither fight nor hump but I bet he/I could be seen a nuisance by some other owners. So I take the view that if the other owner leads their dog, then I’ll lead him. Otherwise, they’re comfortable with their dog’s behaviour and I’m comfortable with mine. 

Dogs are innately sociable creatures. Let them have 30 secs sniffing each others arse, work out who’s boss (and mine’s as soft as shite) and you’ll have far less trouble than trying to hold your one off away from another. 

I suspect Cooper might be sensing your anxiety about unknown dogs and is also picking up on that…

[thomas]

35 minutes ago, alta-pete said:

 

I suspect Cooper might be sensing your anxiety about unknown dogs and is also picking up on that…

I'm aware this is a thing and probably doesn't help. 

[RH33]

45 minutes ago, alta-pete said:

Notwithstanding the arsehole you’ve had to deal with (once would be enough for me to see you and my point of view is based on your one short post) but I’m equivocal on this. I’m lucky that we’re fairly rural so we only trip over maybe 3/4 other dogs each time when out walking.

Our Labrador is an excitable 2yo unneutered male but (and I know all owners say this) he is no threat to anybody. But his chat up technique is a little short on finesse. 

I trust him to neither fight nor hump but I bet he/I could be seen a nuisance by some other owners. So I take the view that if the other owner leads their dog, then I’ll lead him. Otherwise, they’re comfortable with their dog’s behaviour and I’m comfortable with mine. 

Dogs are innately sociable creatures. Let them have 30 secs sniffing each others arse, work out who’s boss (and mine’s as soft as shite) and you’ll have far less trouble than trying to hold your one off away from another. 

I suspect Cooper might be sensing your anxiety about unknown dogs and is also picking up on that…

I've rarely got Shug on a lead now when out. He says hello to people but isnt a jump up on them but equally when called away he'll come.

He's sociable with dogs, apart from shitzus which is understandable as they're grumpy wee shits and one had a go at him last week. 

I wasn't sure about letting the girls walk him on their own at first, but they do now as he's fine. I do worry about them out and meeting an agressive dog with him.

That said I wouldn't let them take mum and dad's dog out as he's an English bulldog and incredibly strong even at 10 and unpredictable around dogs.

Shug is loving his group walks with dog walker. Smiling in photos. 

Seperate point, had various trades people in over last few months. A fair few with frenchies/pugs at home. Doubtless costing fortune. Everyone them has said how great a mutt Shug is and lovely temperament.

He did finally go utterly nuts at someone at the door last week. The only time. It was my ex.

 

[Hedgecutter]

Bert appears to have decided on his preferred stick size.

He gives me the "u fkn wot m8?" eyes whenever I suggest something that mere mortals would place within the 'normal' range. 

Edited February 21, 2023 by Hedgecutter

[Andy Dufresne]

[Rizzo]

Got tiny terrierist a rugby ball from the magical mystery isle in Lidl.

Two days later.

[carpetmonster]

2 minutes ago, Rizzo said:

Got tiny terrierist a rugby ball from the magical mystery isle in Lidl.

Two days later.

10 year old me would like you to put her in a time machine and shove her into the Murrayfield dressing room so the telly has to show cartoons instead of the egg chasing. 

[VictorOnopko]

Very sad to hear that story @Genuine Hibs Fan - absolutely horrendous and my sympathies to you and your family.

As we all know, there are dog owners out there with poorly trained (or completely untrained) dogs and as others have said, it's really hard to get action taken even after a serious incident like yours. Both our old (much-missed) collie Jura and Fern who we now have, have been attacked and quite badly wounded by other dogs and needed a lot of stitches. 

Fern is a really friendly and very well socialised dog, and she nearly lost an eye when attacked out of nowhere by a much larger dog.  We live rurally and know most of the dogs/owners around our bit, and I've never seen that dog or owner before or since.  It all happened so fast, I didn't even get a proper look at either the dog or the owner.  Stuff like this is just so unacceptable and makes me really angry (especially as the polis couldn't care less).

The debate on whether certain breeds are inherently dangerous or not is a complex issue, but it'd certainly be good if idiots like the owner of the dog who attacked your Bonnie were heavily fined and banned from ever owning another animal (or at best stringently licensed and not allowed certain breeds ever again).

@alta-pete agreed on taking cues from other owners on walks- if they put their dog on a lead (or have it on a lead already) I'll put Fern on hers to pass them even though she usually walks/runs off it and is trustworthy to behave; I'm sure that's what most folk do and is common sense.  However, there is always that 0.001% risk - which happened when she was attacked - that the other owner is naive/a moron/doesn't give a shit that their dog is aggressive.

[Molotov]

On 21/02/2023 at 21:49, RH33 said:

 

He did finally go utterly nuts at someone at the door last week. The only time. It was my ex.

 

It’s clear that Shug is feeding off your feelings towards your ex  

Good  

[RH33]

I had new carpet fitted on stairs and halls.

I've moved the left overs to living room to protect floor as kitchens being delivered. Shugs making sure it's scented! Short of cocking his leg on it.

 

[blackislekillie]

You have treats. I know you have treats. It's pointless denying it. 

[Hedgecutter]

Bert's pub dog training is coming on well.

Eta: gave him a rawhide bone thing to entertain him for a while, but he munched it down within 5 mins!

Edited February 25, 2023 by Hedgecutter

[blackislekillie]

Been there. "Long lasting" chews that promise at least a half hours peace in a beer garden turn out to last 3 minutes then the mutt looks at you with that "we ready to walk yet" stare. 

[Florentine_Pogen]

Had to greenie Hedgecutter for drinking Belhaven Black, possibly Scotland's 'Hardest To Find' pint outside of Dunbar Golf Club.

And Bert is looking great too.........................

[mathematics]

Xander got some pussy yesterday.

[Rizzo]

When rescue centres describe dogs as "very loving" I'm going to be reading that as "needy af" from now on. 

Adding this to my list of phrases that help to read between the lines of the write-ups dogs get to make them sound sort of appealing.

At least she's small I suppose.

[Flatulent Gannet]

8 minutes ago, Rizzo said:

When rescue centres describe dogs as "very loving" I'm going to be reading that as "needy af" from now on. 

Adding this to my list of phrases that help to read between the lines of the write-ups dogs get to make them sound sort of appealing.

At least she's small I suppose.

It’s not just rescue dogs that are very loving. . . . . .

[Genuine Hibs Fan]

On 21/02/2023 at 07:38, hk blues said:

I'm not a dog guy but that's a tragic story and heart-breaking for all concerned.  Poor little mite.

 

On 21/02/2023 at 07:58, mathematics said:

Off with their [the owners] fucking heads.

our last two were attacked by a similar breed, and were never the same since. Owner also scarpered as I’d have a new patio otherwise.

Feel for you GHF, I really do.

 

On 21/02/2023 at 08:11, Hedgecutter said:

Sorry to hear that GHF, sounds awful.

Oor Bert was attacked by a dog not long before we got him (which required stitches), meaning he's very nervous around other dogs that we're trying to get him 'talking' to again.  We're still waiting to get any details about it, but he seems to have an immediate dislike of cocker spaniels (fine with the one Springer we've encountered to date).  Bert will growl at them, and has given some scary warning snaps after they've come up to him uninvited.

My other half's good friend has a cocker, and a chihuahua with an attitude problem.  Yet to meet up with them, but hopefully that'll get him relaxed with cockers as her's is a chilled cool dude.  On the other hand, I'm half-worried that Bert will initially mistake the chihuahua for some rabbit-like creature, resulting in the lurcher brain wanting the (surprisingly powerful*) jaws to wring it by the neck.

 

*My other half bought him a tennis ball the other day, which he crushed into multiple pieces with a single bite!  He's such an affectionate chappie, but little things like that act as a necessary reminder that we have a 40 mph weapon under our roof, with the instinct of forefathers bred to kill (small things) in impressively swift fashion (and smear themselves in fox sh*te, as I was reminded of the hard way yesterday ).

He didn't look too fussed around sheep yesterday though, although I'd be interested to see how this would have panned out off the lead.

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On 21/02/2023 at 09:08, mishtergrolsch said:

That's horrendous, my sympathies @Genuine Hibs Fan. 

 

On 21/02/2023 at 11:00, untitled00 said:

Police are absolutely useless in regards to dog attacks. 
 

My dog met a wee cocker pup (my dogs a 4 year old springer who adores pups) and both were playing on the lead when a lassie lost control of her Rottweiler which then attacked my dog and bit me.

police turned up the next morning and stated (swear this is true) ‘well, I cannae arrest a dog’ and that was the end of it. I complained and they apologised and promised to investigate - nothing happened so I provided the location of the lassies work - nearby industrial estate - still nothing.

my next door neighbours boyfriend actually stays in the same building as the owner and so advised the police of this - still got nowhere.

I complained further and someone at the police equivalent of higher level complaints agreed to issue an appeal via social media for the owner of the cocker puppy to come forward.

no appeal was ever made. I also met the cocker owner about 3 weeks after promised appeal and advised her of this. So she went direct to the police station who told her they wouldn’t even log this.

I made a further complaint which would now be about a year after the original incident asking why they refused to take the witness info, given they had agreed. It’s been over 3 months and I have had absolutely zero response.

to say I’m fucked off with the police would be a massive understatement at this point…

 

On 21/02/2023 at 20:41, alta-pete said:

@Genuine Hibs Fan that’s a horrific story. So sad to hear, can’t imagine how you’re all feeling.

 

On 21/02/2023 at 20:49, Zanetti said:

This is horrific and absolutely terrifying. I don't have any advice but you have my sympathies, poor wee thing.

 

On 25/02/2023 at 14:04, VictorOnopko said:

Very sad to hear that story @Genuine Hibs Fan - absolutely horrendous and my sympathies to you and your family.

As we all know, there are dog owners out there with poorly trained (or completely untrained) dogs and as others have said, it's really hard to get action taken even after a serious incident like yours. Both our old (much-missed) collie Jura and Fern who we now have, have been attacked and quite badly wounded by other dogs and needed a lot of stitches. 

Fern is a really friendly and very well socialised dog, and she nearly lost an eye when attacked out of nowhere by a much larger dog.  We live rurally and know most of the dogs/owners around our bit, and I've never seen that dog or owner before or since.  It all happened so fast, I didn't even get a proper look at either the dog or the owner.  Stuff like this is just so unacceptable and makes me really angry (especially as the polis couldn't care less).

The debate on whether certain breeds are inherently dangerous or not is a complex issue, but it'd certainly be good if idiots like the owner of the dog who attacked your Bonnie were heavily fined and banned from ever owning another animal (or at best stringently licensed and not allowed certain breeds ever again).

@alta-pete agreed on taking cues from other owners on walks- if they put their dog on a lead (or have it on a lead already) I'll put Fern on hers to pass them even though she usually walks/runs off it and is trustworthy to behave; I'm sure that's what most folk do and is common sense.  However, there is always that 0.001% risk - which happened when she was attacked - that the other owner is naive/a moron/doesn't give a shit that their dog is aggressive.

Thanks everyone for your thoughts here. Last week was very difficult but we went up to spend the day with my folks yesterday and they are still raw but doing a bit better, although I think my dad and brother, who were there in the moment, have had a bit of a  trauma response. The very good news is that someone has been charged under the dangerous dogs act, with a second person being actively looked for. The dog seems to have been moved on but apparently failing to produce it will go against them in court. My brother put a fair amount of pressure on police and councillors but seems to have worked, so some sense of justice there.

[RH33]

Glad they are least took action.