Forest_Fifer Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 What is to stop someone doing this now and racking up the speeding fines? Your reg no is on the tax disk as well so it's easier to spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisal Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Time to find a car same as mine in same colour ....and clone it's plates. Seriously what's going to stop this and the parking tickets and speeding fines if someone does this with your plates? I got sent a notice to pay the London Congestion charge. They said they had a photo of my number plate. I hadn't been outside Glasgow on the date. I sent them a letter explaining that and a list of people I had been at work with. My biggest regret is not just writing f**k off I wuzny near your shitehole city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Time to find a car same as mine in same colour ....and clone it's plates. Seriously what's going to stop this and the parking tickets and speeding fines if someone does this with your plates? Nothing stops this under the status quo. You can clone a tax disc no less easily than a set of number plates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Your reg no is on the tax disk as well so it's easier to spot. As far as I'm aware traffic cameras can't read your tax disc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyerTon Posted September 1, 2014 Author Share Posted September 1, 2014 If your tax disc is up at the end of this month, buy a year and you'll have the last tax disc ever: 30 09 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisa Cuddy Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 If your tax disc is up at the end of this month, buy a year and you'll have the last tax disc ever: 30 09 15 Surely if this new thing starts on the first of October, you won't get a tax disc at the end of this month. Mine is up at the end of the month and I feel a bit ripped off to be honest. I'm never going to get to put a brand new tax disc in my car. I won't ever get to try and tear carefully along the perforations without tearing the whole thing. Gutted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyerTon Posted September 1, 2014 Author Share Posted September 1, 2014 Surely if this new thing starts on the first of October, you won't get a tax disc at the end of this month. Mine is up at the end of the month and I feel a bit ripped off to be honest. I'm never going to get to put a brand new tax disc in my car. I won't ever get to try and tear carefully along the perforations without tearing the whole thing. Gutted. Yeah, you will get one if your tax is up at the end of Sep. If you buy a year, this can then be displayed until 30 Sep 2015, if you want to that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisa Cuddy Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Yeah, you will get one if your tax is up at the end of Sep. If you buy a year, this can then be displayed until 30 Sep 2015, if you want to that is. Sorry, I'm probably just being dim but if the next tax year starts on the 1 Oct and this scheme comes in on the 1 Oct, you wouldn't need one, would you? If you were to tax your car online, would they really bother sending a disc out to you? What a waste of money! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyerTon Posted September 1, 2014 Author Share Posted September 1, 2014 New rules also from October if you sell a car you get the un-used tax back: http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/504117/Paper-tax-discs-are-set-to-become-extinct DVLA are now said to be printing their own tax discs in house on plain paper. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/11059456/DVLA-about-to-run-out-of-tax-disc-paper.html Post Office's will use the remainder of old stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisa Cuddy Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Yeah, you will get one if your tax is up at the end of Sep. If you buy a year, this can then be displayed until 30 Sep 2015, if you want to that is. Just taxed the car. I'm not getting a tax disc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing (2) Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Just taxed the car. I'm not getting a tax disc. Shite. I'm due to renew in a couple of weeks.Plus this will put the cost of buying a second hand car up. Bugger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tree house tam Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 New rules also from October if you sell a car you get the un-used tax back: http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/504117/Paper-tax-discs-are-set-to-become-extinct DVLA are now said to be printing their own tax discs in house on plain paper. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/11059456/DVLA-about-to-run-out-of-tax-disc-paper.html Post Office's will use the remainder of old stock. This is true , got tax disc at start of month from DVLA . Pishy photocopy that had no perforation round edges . Had to cut the fucker out ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 I taxed my car two weeks ago and got a proper disc with the perforation and everything. The DVLA chap was on BBC Radio 2 a couple of weeks ago and when quizzed admitted theres virtually no way of stopping people cloning your number plates, and it was then revealed that the methods that are going to be getting used to try and stop this happening once tax discs disappear caught the grand total of zero people last year This could be horrendous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernLights Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Saw this story today. Scrapping the tax disc was meant to save the Treasury £10million but since the new system was introduce the number of unlicensed vehicles has trebled and meant last year £107million of revenue was lost alone. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42009111 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 2 hours ago, NorthernLights said: Saw this story today. Scrapping the tax disc was meant to save the Treasury £10million but since the new system was introduce the number of unlicensed vehicles has trebled and meant last year £107million of revenue was lost alone. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42009111 Saw this to. Hard to be too critical, it was a decent idea but it looks like it has backfired spectacularly. The right thing to do would be to monitor it for a bit longer then, if the trend is still the same, reintroduce the discs. It might take some political courage to do it, but to say "yeah we were wrong about this and are going back to the old system" might win some plaudits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Saw this to. Hard to be too critical, it was a decent idea but it looks like it has backfired spectacularly. The right thing to do would be to monitor it for a bit longer then, if the trend is still the same, reintroduce the discs. It might take some political courage to do it, but to say "yeah we were wrong about this and are going back to the old system" might win some plaudits. Yep, a decent idea but forgot to factor in that a lot of people are c***s. Tbf I do know a lot of people who genuinely forgot to renew their tax when they had the date stuck to their window, so I would guess a lot more have forgot now they don't have a visual reminder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB 4.2 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Granny Danger said: Saw this to. Hard to be too critical, it was a decent idea but it looks like it has backfired spectacularly. The right thing to do would be to monitor it for a bit longer then, if the trend is still the same, reintroduce the discs. It might take some political courage to do it, but to say "yeah we were wrong about this and are going back to the old system" might win some plaudits. If they do this the tories have won your vote? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EH75 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Correct me if I'm wrong but all cars have to be either taxed or sorn? You can't just let your tax expire, if you do you will get an automatic fine? So if there are 755000 "unlicensed" cars (ie neither taxed or SORNED) then that should be 755000 in automatic fines rolling in for the Treasury? Or are they stating that there are 755000 people driving about in cars that are declared SORN? If that's the case then how have they come up with that? Have they caught that many people? (in which case they have surely collected a shit load of fines) or is it an estimate extrapolated from the number of people they have caught? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 14 minutes ago, EH75 said: Correct me if I'm wrong but all cars have to be either taxed or sorn? You can't just let your tax expire, if you do you will get an automatic fine? So if there are 755000 "unlicensed" cars (ie neither taxed or SORNED) then that should be 755000 in automatic fines rolling in for the Treasury? Or are they stating that there are 755000 people driving about in cars that are declared SORN? If that's the case then how have they come up with that? Have they caught that many people? (in which case they have surely collected a shit load of fines) or is it an estimate extrapolated from the number of people they have caught? ^^^this. How is it easier to avoid road tax when your car is directly linked to your name and address on a government database than when PC Cabe was patrolling the streets checking tax discs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 11 minutes ago, welshbairn said: ^^^this. How is it easier to avoid road tax when your car is directly linked to your name and address on a government database than when PC Cabe was patrolling the streets checking tax discs? A wild guess might be DVLA paid off staff as part of the savings from binning the discs. They now don't have enough staff to address compliance issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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