Enigma Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 (edited) On the plus side it looks like serious constitutional changes will be forced in to satisfy the English and Welsh because of the "Vow". It's all a bit of a mess. I think I'll be giving up my interest in politics for a wee while. If only I had a decent football team to support. Edited September 19, 2014 by Enigma 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 You can almost feel the 'more powers' sliding down the agenda... That's the sad thing, if the Yes % is really low, there would be less need to get the more powers in quickly and would probably mean less been given. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Define 'huge'? 14-15% 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 (edited) That's the sad thing, if the Yes % is really low, there would be less need to get the more powers in quickly and would probably mean less been given. I think a bit of talk in the next week or two, nothing more until some vague suggestions in May 2015 then once Labour are back mention of a working group to discuss suggestions of possible future powers... then well end up with 4% of income tax variation and speed limits in time for the next election after 2015. Edited September 19, 2014 by Enigma 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Some stunning odds now. 84/1. I have backed hoping for Dundee and Glasgow to declare and have it come in to see if I can double my stake. No in a very strong position. They won't declare until the death though: especially after the fire evacuation at Dundee. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibby82 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 (edited) 14-15% Would be surprised. Reckon YES will get around 45%. Edited September 19, 2014 by Gibby82 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Would be surprised. Reckon YES will get around 45%. Hope so. That's still 10% though. Im amazed this isn't a lot closer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 They won't declare until the death though: especially after the fire evacuation at Dundee. Aye I made a f**k up. Twenty quid down the pooper. Certainly not the most expensive mistake I have ever made. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 East Renfrewshire's Labour MP thinking it could be 'well above' 60-40 in favour of No. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibby82 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Hope so. That's still 10% though. Im amazed this isn't a lot closer. Yeah, me too. Bit of an anticlimax as a spectacle! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibby82 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 East Renfrewshire's Labour MP thinking it could be 'well above' 60-40 in favour of No. Aberdeenshire might return a similar result. HB's 15% lead for NO might not be that far off the mark. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Really is depressing to watch Johann Lamont schooling David Coburn when we could have been looking towards a more positive Scotland. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 The Mitt Romneying whitewash of both the polls to a lesser extent but above all the actual fucking results has been fairly cringeworthy tbh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue4578 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 (edited) No is the certainty of all certainties IMO. There'll be a lot of chatter on this subject in the next few weeks but the vote will only go one way. It's a hard one to quantify exactly, unlike most sporting events you can bet on, but I genuinely believe that Yes is less than 2% likely and it wouldn't surprise me at all if it gets less than 45% of the vote. I have been known to be hopelessly wrong before of course, as have opinion polls immediately preceding elections. The only thing I'm surprised about is that some people are surprised by how this appears to be going. The silent minority majority were never going to vote for financial uncertainty. The vocal pro-independence people just made it feel closer than it was ever going to be. Edited September 19, 2014 by blue4578 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 (edited) The only thing I'm surprised about is that some people are surprised by how this appears to be going. The silent minority were never going to vote for financial uncertainty. The vocal pro-independence people just made it feel closer than it was ever going to be. It was a combination of the cocoon effect of a football message board and Facebook shite along with a more vocal Yes minority. Its easy to forget how tiny a group that is Edited September 19, 2014 by H_B 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradHorse Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 As it stands I believe about 1.5% of the votes are in. Let's see what the cities have to say. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 f**k off Keiza Dugdale, a cardboard cutout MSP 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue4578 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 It was a combination of the cocoon effect of a football message board and Facebook shite along with a more vocal Yes minority. Its easy to forget how tiny a group that is Indeed, I meant silent majority not minority of course. I don't recall ever being anywhere near as certain of winning a bet at odds of 4/9 as I was on this one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Not being a heavy hitter i chose the Yes 45-50 at 7/2. I was fooled a bit by the polls in that i thought it would be close-ish. Might still win but must be odds against now. I agree that the odds drift created fantastic value on No. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cults_sheep Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 f**k off Keiza Dugdale, a cardboard cutout MSP Wid. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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