forza ton Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 The Yes Camp are behind and private polling suggests this. It also suggest that Daily Mail/ Yougov polls are rigged. Yeah, I know we are behind but smart people tend to vote yes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forza ton Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Certainly when i think 'well educated' what first comes to mind is Pie and Bovril. Closely followed by your wife s Facebook page.I find p and b to have a reasonable standard of debate and there are a lot of bright people posting here; there are a lot of dafties on Facebook. You get that, right? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forza ton Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Low-information voters will side with No. That's why it's absolutely key to get the facts out to those who need them. Indeed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 I find p and b to have a reasonable standard of debate and there are a lot of bright people posting here; there are a lot of dafties on Facebook. You get that, right? I think p and b is very mixed. There are some smart people and a lot of very stupid people. On an equally straw poll basis i work in an IT firm. There are about 20 people in my area - all graduates. Just 1 Yes voter. The smart people i know will be voting No. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Rational Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 and the smart people I know will vote yes. I work in the voluntary sector, we are completely fed up with how both shades of Tory is treating the young, poor, old, sick and less well off in this country. Straw polls are great aren't they? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 I think p and b is very mixed. There are some smart people and a lot of very stupid people. On an equally straw poll basis i work in an IT firm. There are about 20 people in my area - all graduates. Just 1 Yes voter. The smart people i know will be voting No. There is a difference between being smart and being informed. I think Swampy is correct when he says low information voters will vote No: regardless of IQ/intellect. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbl Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 (edited) I think p and b is very mixed. There are some smart people and a lot of very stupid people. On an equally straw poll basis i work in an IT firm. There are about 20 people in my area - all graduates. Just 1 Yes voter. The smart people i know will be voting No. It is truly remarkable how No voters all seem to work and socialise in No dominated environments. This has the whiff of Tryfield's funeral all over again. The smart people I know that have done some research are all voting Yes. I don't know anyone who has done some research and then decided to vote No. Edited December 3, 2013 by xbl 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broccoli Dog Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 people who work in IT are total gaylords though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 people who work in IT are total gaylords though. Oi! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Bojangles Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 (edited) Such anger Edited December 3, 2013 by Mr. Bojangles 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 and the smart people I know will vote yes. I work in the voluntary sector, we are completely fed up with how both shades of Tory is treating the young, poor, old, sick and less well off in this country. Straw polls are great aren't they? No... i think they are pretty irrelevant to be honest. About as instructive as to the end result as your highly scientific doorstep challenges. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Rational Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 (edited) Ouch, that really hurts. must take myself off and cry somewhere....You seem to be just chucking insults about these days, has Deegas hacked your account? Edited December 3, 2013 by Mr Rational 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Bojangles Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Ouch, that really hurts. must take myself off and cry somewhere.... You seem to be just be chucking insults about these days, has Deegas hacked your account? Don't judge him too harshly. All his friends are leaving him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbl Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Don't judge him too harshly. All his friends are leaving him. Its so true! He's becoming more and more isolated on here, as more and more people shift positions. I said a while back that I suspect he will actually vote Yes, and will then claim that he was a Yes supporter all along, and deny ever saying something different. I reckon the only thing holding him back is his inability to admit that he's got something wrong. HB has a 100% record of never being wrong. Apparently. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Its so true! He's becoming more and more isolated on here, as more and more people shift positions. I said a while back that I suspect he will actually vote Yes, and will then claim that he was a Yes supporter all along, and deny ever saying something different. I reckon the only thing holding him back is his inability to admit that he's got something wrong. HB has a 100% record of never being wrong. Apparently. You're thinking of Ad Lib. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamaldo Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 You're both wrong. It's the entire Glasgow Law Squad that have never been wrong. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 I only got 3/1 on a Yes return. Still reckon my £100 is a goner though. Bugger. Guarenteed to be financially better off in an independent scotland then 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackIsleBud Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 I think p and b is very mixed. There are some smart people and a lot of very stupid people. On an equally straw poll basis i work in an IT firm. There are about 20 people in my area - all graduates. Just 1 Yes voter. The smart people i know will be voting No. Anyone voting YES automatically gains the status of 'smart' in my world. I mean, what sort of narrow minded, myopic, uneducated fool would pass up this chance to have a potentially better country to live in? (no offence meant to the 19 f**kwits in your work area). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Poll published today by the Scotsman of 1006 Scottish adults. http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/top-stories/scottish-independence-no-ahead-by-9-new-poll-1-3201333 Yes 38 No 47 Undecided 15 Pretty bog standard poll result. No comfortably in front as it has been since polling data began. Latest odds: Best odds on Yes: 5/1 (William Hill, Coral, Ladbrokes) Best odds on No: 1/5 (Betfair) Post the latest polls and odds in here along with your interpretation of them. My interpretation of them thus far is that no is cruising to a comprehensive victory. What's yours? Going by that I would say all that proves is that the Bookmaker's market isn't influenced that much by any poll thus far. On each poll I have seen and read the Yes vote has a greater chance than the 16.7% chance the bookmakers are suggesting. If you wanted to bet on the market, I would back the 5/1 with knowledge that the odds would come in closer to the event and you can trade out in profit. A market supplied by a bookmakers isn't influenced solely by the likelihood of an event occurring. It is heavily influenced by their liquidity and money being staked on a particular outcome. I would say that the early backers are putting their money on a No vote, and hence the Yes odds drifting to try and recoup liabilities on the market. There are many examples where a mathematical favourite to win an event has not been made favourite by a bookie. Hence taking bookies odds to try and make a point is deeply flawed. As for the poll I'm a bit surprised that the No vote isn't ahead by more. As with any election in my recent memory, odds and probabilities mean nothing until the election day. Of that 1006 polled how many will actually bother themselves to vote? The Yes needs a lot of help currently, but it isn't that large of a swing compared to election results in the past thirty years. I would make No 4/6 and Yes 2/1. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 You'd be a terrible bookie given that backing both results at those odds would guarantee a profit 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.