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[Duries Air Freshener]

7 minutes ago, Zern said:

Austerity is a Tory policy, one we've been suffering under for quite some time now.

Why would an SNP led government do that to its population when it can, as an independent country, increase borrowing and run a deficit to fund public services? There is also the control of defence spending that will allow re-allocation of funds to other areas of the economy as we no longer have to support spending on trident and much of the navy and air force.

Joining the EU will lead to increases in trade and funding for areas in Scotland.

No longer having to pay for the bloated House of Lords.  A welcome saving.

Never understood why austerity would suddenly become SNP/Green policy, they're not in favour of that shite. Never have been. Tory policies are not popular up here.

Just ask the Greeks how the EU treats it's member states in terms of inflicting austerity upon them.

[williemillersmoustache]

Isnt it jolly fortunate that the profits from skint old Scotlands worthless natural resources were available to be raided by the chancellor today to help with the cost of living crisis?

[Dawson Park Boy]

16 minutes ago, Zern said:

Austerity is a Tory policy, one we've been suffering under for quite some time now.

Why would an SNP led government do that to its population when it can, as an independent country, increase borrowing and run a deficit to fund public services? There is also the control of defence spending that will allow re-allocation of funds to other areas of the economy as we no longer have to support spending on trident and much of the navy and air force.

Joining the EU will lead to increases in trade and funding for areas in Scotland.

No longer having to pay for the bloated House of Lords.  A welcome saving.

Never understood why austerity would suddenly become SNP/Green policy, they're not in favour of that shite. Never have been. Tory policies are not popular up here.

The Growth Commission Under Andrew Wilson reckoned there would need to be austerity in the medium term after independence.

[carpetmonster]

2 minutes ago, Dawson Park Boy said:

The Growth Commission Under Andrew Wilson reckoned there would need to be austerity in the medium term after independence.

So austerity with a government that Scotland does vote for, or one that it doesn't, then. May as well take the government it votes for at least. 

Edited May 26, 2022 by carpetmonster

[Dawson Park Boy]

11 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

I have far more in common with liberal minded socialists in Italy, France or Poland than I have with you. Scotland hasn't voted Tory since the 1950s, yet we keep being governed by them because the English electorate is alien to our way of thinking. On average, of course.

Yes, you and I have fundamental differences in political outlook which is fine as that’s democracy.

As I recall we had Labour governments under Atlee, Wilson, Callaghan and Blair Brown which I think Scotland would have voted for. Certainly not me, but we vote as the UK, not as separate countries. That was confirmed in 2014.

[Antlion]

1 hour ago, Jeff Venom said:

Don't forget about Ireland, what with their shared history and traditions, and their long-standing friendship with the conservative and unionist party. 

Well, according to the more extreme, loony UK Nats, Ireland is still part of the UK. After all, Acts of Union are in perpetuity…

[Highlandmagar]

49 minutes ago, Dawson Park Boy said:

Yes, you and I have fundamental differences in political outlook which is fine as that’s democracy.

As I recall we had Labour governments under Atlee, Wilson, Callaghan and Blair Brown which I think Scotland would have voted for. Certainly not me, but we vote as the UK, not as separate countries. That was confirmed in 2014.

Brexit we voted differently, but it is foisted upon us????

[Duries Air Freshener]

12 minutes ago, Highlandmagyar Tier 3 said:

Brexit we voted differently, but it is foisted upon us????

It was a UK-wide vote though, so was won fair and square.

[Highlandmagar]

2 minutes ago, Duries Air Freshener said:

It was a UK-wide vote though, so was won fair and square.

After being told a tissue of lies which England swallowed.

[Dawson Park Boy]

42 minutes ago, Highlandmagyar Tier 3 said:

Brexit we voted differently, but it is foisted upon us????

Quite a few parts of England voted remain, but I don’t hear them crying foul.

The basic point is that we voted as the UK.

Just get over it.

[Highlandmagar]

6 minutes ago, Dawson Park Boy said:

Quite a few parts of England voted remain, but I don’t hear them crying foul.

The basic point is that we voted as the UK.

Just get over it.

Brexit was always going to be decided by England. I won't get over the systematic lies over it for people to personally gain and set out to destroy UK as a whole which is happening. But. No surprise you are happy with a society being destroyed.

[Antlion]

14 minutes ago, Dawson Park Boy said:

Quite a few parts of England voted remain, but I don’t hear them crying foul.

The basic point is that we voted as the UK.

Just get over it.

No. Ignoring an affront to Scottish national will that only exists directly because of being part of the UK is best left to craven Little Britons who see Scotland as just a wee quirky “part of England”. 
 

ETA: I do think “Better Together” should campaign next time on slogans like “Vote No - we’re just like parts of England: just get over it.” Will really get rid of any pretence of the UK being any kind of modern union, especially of equals.

Edited May 26, 2022 by Antlion

[Glen Sannox]

2 hours ago, williemillersmoustache said:

Isnt it jolly fortunate that the profits from skint old Scotlands worthless natural resources were available to be raided by the chancellor today to help with the cost of living crisis?

It’s only the SNP and Greens who have deemed our natural resources as worthless.

[Antlion]

37 minutes ago, Glen Sannox said:

It’s only the SNP and Greens who have deemed our natural resources as worthless.

I’m not convinced lads like this are either SNP or Green - but then, he’s not just claiming oil is worthless - it’s an active liability:

“Thankfully, in 2014, the majority chose a more rational way forward. Ironically, the oil asset morphed into a liability and, again, the strength of the Union was called upon to address the collapse of the oil economy.”

 

[scottsdad]

5 hours ago, Duries Air Freshener said:

The only reason Guess make up ground during the campaign was that people hadn’t properly thought about the issue before.

Now, thanks to constant Nat agitation, it’s never been out of the public consciousness.

So it was a good idea once folk thought about it? 

[Duries Air Freshener]

14 minutes ago, scottsdad said:

So it was a good idea once folk thought about it? 

Not according to the Scottish electorate who voted against it.

[Antlion]

22 minutes ago, scottsdad said:

So it was a good idea once folk thought about it? 

To be fair, we were all still a bit stumped by the lack of lies plastered on the sides of buses, which would have eliminated all that pesky thinking and got the future Brexit voters queuing up to vote “Yes”.

[DMCs]

12 hours ago, williemillersmoustache said:

Isnt it jolly fortunate that the profits from skint old Scotlands worthless natural resources were available to be raided by the chancellor today to help with the cost of living crisis?

The vast majority of BP's profits come from overseas extraction. Nothing to do with domestic energy bills or domestic FF production.

[doulikefish]

14 minutes ago, DMCs said:

The vast majority of BP's profits come from overseas extraction. Nothing to do with domestic energy bills or domestic FF production.

$15 billion worldwide total $6 billion of that in the uk last time I checked I'm sure they manage 

[DMCs]

17 minutes ago, doulikefish said:

$15 billion worldwide total $6 billion of that in the uk last time I checked I'm sure they manage 

In terms of metric tons of oil extracted the figure I saw was that their American production is over 4x their entire European production.