Hedgecutter Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 If it's any consolation, this is not a complete loss for Yes. Much more powers are on the way to Holyrood which otherwise would not have been had it not been for this referendum. So that has to be a partial success? No? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todders Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 If it's any consolation, this is not a complete loss for Yes. Much more powers are on the way to Holyrood which otherwise would not have been had it not been for this referendum. So that has to be a partial success? No? Do you really believe that given the statements from the Tories and Labour in the last 24 hours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 It's fascinating to see the number of unionists that have appeared on this forum after the vote. Far more than were prepared to offer their views in recent months. Maybe there lack of conviction and self believe permeates throughout their whole lives and not just when it comes to voting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyerTon Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 An apt song for the result: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford prefect Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Tax raising powers are one thing. Tax lowering powers are what Scotland needs to attract business and create jobs. Thanks, Dave, Gordon and the 55%. ^^^^^^ Still believes "the vow".... Point and laugh material Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowmore Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Tax raising powers are one thing. Tax lowering powers are what Scotland needs to attract business and create jobs. Thanks, Dave, Gordon and the 55%. Agreed, you should be able to lower taxes and increase state spending (or even just maintain it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigOutYourSoul Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 It's fascinating to see the number of unionists that have appeared on this forum after the vote. Far more than were prepared to offer their views in recent months. Maybe there lack of conviction and self believe permeates throughout their whole lives and not just when it comes to voting. Might have been more to do with that fact that being openly No lead to anything you said being completely dismissed by the majority of the forum making it pointless for them to post? H_B kept going, Banterous tried his best, but for the most part from what I saw, they, the 'unionists', just gave up bothering in here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 What happened to the three party timetable on more powers that was due to be published yesterday? Are no voters happy they've been lied to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 What happened to the three party timetable on more powers that was due to be published yesterday? Are no voters happy they've been lied to? St Andrews day Burns night,,,could it be anymore patronising? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Hundreds of years from now, September 18th 2014 will be taught in history classes. And there will be a collective cringe at the 55%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracowjambo Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 What happened to the three party timetable on more powers that was due to be published yesterday? Are no voters happy they've been lied to? It shows how much scotland really means to the UK. They couldn't even keep the lie for a full 24hrs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speckled tangerine Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 I'll bet George Cunningham is pishing himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southman75 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Probably one of the most cringeworthy and embarrassing sights I watched and have seen repeatedly on the news yesterday, well apart from the events at George Square last night, was the couple dancing around arm in arm in front of the tv camera at the Better Together party as the results were announced. They were dancing around like they had just won the lottery at the fact they were watching our Parliament losing power to another country. They may as well have just said to demolish the Scottish Parliament as we arent capable of running it or making decisions for the benefit of our own people, and we are so better looked after by Westminster than we would possibly be by our own countrymen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Genuine change will not come from the Russel Brand sterotype. There are too many conspiracy nuts, and people wanting an anarchic revoloution. A geniune change movement, must be less confrontational, less willing to jump on every socalist band waggon. less willing to criticize allies, more willing to compromise with big corportaions. Socialism was born in extreem poverty not relative poverty of a modern society, as much as the goals are commendable, it's flawed. I want a fairer society where min wage is higher, 0 hours contratcs are illegal, slave labour is gone racism and discrimination is socally unacceptable. Bankers and sports stars are not paid the same in one week that moast make in a year or a lifetime. It must be acknolegded that at the national level a rich city like london, does increase the wealth of the country that supports it. We must not narrow the goal posts to fairness, and that is what nationalism does. Fucking bullshit. You stupid, stupid c**t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 It's fascinating to see the number of unionists that have appeared on this forum after the vote. Far more than were prepared to offer their views in recent months. Maybe there lack of conviction and self believe permeates throughout their whole lives and not just when it comes to voting. Its just as fascinating to see the number who you couldn't shut up before the vote, and who were incredibly bullish and arrogant about Yes s prospects disappear like snow off a dyke rather than return to show face.Spineless. Credit to those who have actually posted in the aftermath, though that is tempered by some of it (not you) being unadulterated drivel even worse than their per vote output Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizfit Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Shut. The. f**k. Up. You. c**t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaffenThinMint Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 George Galloway is claiming on Twitter he was the one that won it for "No". "My haters who said I was irrelevant and that no-one was listening to me are now placing the responsibility for the result on my shoulders." https://twitter.com/georgegalloway/status/512932590324838400 Says it all that the first to agree with him was the Monster Raving Loony Party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaven Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 George Galloway is claiming on Twitter he was the one that won it for "No". "My haters who said I was irrelevant and that no-one was listening to me are now placing the responsibility for the result on my shoulders." https://twitter.com/georgegalloway/status/512932590324838400 Says it all that the first to agree with him was the Monster Raving Loony Party. Has George had a knock on the head recently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Well, as predicted, a very vocal group of Yes supporters did not mean Yes had the most support. I said the No's would do their talking on the day of the vote and that's what happened. It's always those who want things to be different who make the most noise. But I have to admit during the campaign I did begin to wonder if No had enough support. Especially as the polls were narrowing and narrowing. With such a high % of people who wanted to vote, that worried me. Why do they suddenly want a vote now?, I wondered. My rationalisation was they must be Yes supporters. Thankfully, most were No supporters who wanted to keep the union intact. I'm so proud of all of those who chose to vote No. It's because of them I can still say I'm an English Scottish Brit from the United Kingdom. When the results were being announced, I was confident until Dundee's results were read out and then I thought "Yes might actually win this!". A few results quickly followed however which put No right out in front and settled the nerves again. My worry was Glasgow. Could Glasgow lower the deficit and even put Yes ahead? Alas, for them, although they won there it was only by about 25,000 votes. It just wasn't enough and was actually easily bested by the Dumfries and Galloway vote shortly afterwards. And the fact Yes was losing in supposedly strong Yes area's said it all, it just wasn't going to happen. I thought when No won I would be on here and elsewhere gloating in response to some of the shite I've had to put up with during this debate. Actually, I'm just exhausted and in fact have some sympathy for Yes supporters who put their heart and soul into the Yes cause whilst remaining respectful. If it's any consolation, this is not a complete loss for Yes. Much more powers are on the way to Holyrood which otherwise would not have been had it not been for this referendum. So that has to be a partial success? No? So you voted no because of a passport and flag basically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepundit Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 So you voted no because of a passport and flag basically. No, I voted No simply because I'm a Rangers fan, remember. Seriously though, I voted No because I genuinely believe Scotland would be better off as part of the United Kingdom. I also believed it was better for Wales, Northern Ireland and England, which maybe certain Nationalists were not taking into consideration. The vote, for me, was not just about Scotland. That said, I can totally appreciate people thought Scotland would be better off as an independent country and, hey, they may have been correct, but I just never heard a convincing economic argument to support that theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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