Ludo*1 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Aye, the cards on the No table were just votes that hadn't been counted. I'm more disgusted with the few that don't believe in democracy and have actively tampered with the vote as they were counting. Of course, this doesn't account for a defeat by 400,000 but the fact that these people attempted to deny a democracy is disgusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Just how does it make you feel that you are still British? The same as it does to feel Scottish at present. Horrendous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Aye, the cards on the No table were just votes that hadn't been counted. I'm more disgusted with the few that don't believe in democracy and have actively tampered with the vote as they were counting. Of course, this doesn't account for a defeat by 400,000 but the fact that these people attempted to deny a democracy is disgusting. Yeah , I said I don't believe it was a fix , but as for denying democracy , you can point that finger at the MSM who with the exception of the herald all got behind the no campaign, not to mention major employers telling their employees how to vote with vague threats about their jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilos Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Somebody on FB has a clip from Skynews on the Clackmannanshire votes showing yes votes in the no pile?..sorry if this has been mentioned The whole process is monitored by both the YES and the NO camp. So stop with the conspiracies. If there were stacks of YES in the NO pile, why did the YES monitors just stand there? If there was 1 vote or even 1 stack of votes in the wrong area it would have been noticed and moved, If not, do you want a recount? After the recount It's still 1.6 million to 2 million. The democratic majority has spoken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenBud Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Obviously the sairest of sair yins but 45% is still pretty impressive considering a host of historical and social issues at play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingrodent Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Yeah , I said I don't believe it was a fix , but as for denying democracy , you can point that finger at the MSM who with the exception of the herald all got behind the no campaign, not to mention major employers telling their employees how to vote with vague threats about their jobs. How, exactly, is an 85% turnout "denying democracy"? It's no surprise that the Yes camp are very disappointed today, but they should be proud - they forced pretty much the entire country to come out and vote in order to thwart them, on a vastly greater scale than any recent election. Probably better to respect that, than to cast about for excuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamaldo Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Obviously the sairest of sair yins but 45% is still pretty impressive considering a host of historical and social issues at play. Let's be honest. It looked like we would be lucky to get 35% at one point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pull My Strings Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Yeah , I said I don't believe it was a fix , but as for denying democracy , you can point that finger at the MSM who with the exception of the herald all got behind the no campaign, not to mention major employers telling their employees how to vote with vague threats about their jobs. The Herald were also No. Only the Sunday Herald were Yes out of all the mainstream media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookies Love Me Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Just how does it make you feel that you are still British? He doesn't have to feel British, he's a Scotsman living the United Kingdom. This wasn't about being British. HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 f**k sake. Hundreds of thousands of really old c***s came out and voted no. That's why no won. Some fanny on my fb (who is partial to YouTube conspiracies) has already started with the theories and badly shot and edited films proving f**k all. There will be another referendum in a generation - earlier if WM don't deliver on these so called powers. And when that one comes around, the vast majority of the electorate will have voted yes yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoversMad Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Just listening to radio Scotland & apparently Milliband has just refused to sign up to Cameron devolution plans... Well that took long! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 f**k sake. Hundreds of thousands of really old c***s came out and voted no. That's why no won. Some fanny on my fb (who is partial to YouTube conspiracies) has already started with the theories and badly shot and edited films proving f**k all. There will be another referendum in a generation - earlier if WM don't deliver on these so called powers. And when that one comes around, the vast majority of the electorate will have voted yes yesterday. That's the way I see it , Cameron already has a backbench revolt on his Vow, and now Miliband has told him no...what a joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AeroZeppelin Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 I have no issue with democracy. That's fine. Rangers fans, landowners, the elderly and the middle classes voting out of self interest is the pisser for me. I fully accept the vote. Doesn't stop me being disgusted with it. It's not even just self interest that he I could almost take, it's bigotry and ignorance. People would have been better off in iScotland, if they were self interested they'd vote yes, if they weren't ignorant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenBud Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Quelle surprise. Did seem awfa risky, i imagine No still would have won without the Vow tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever_blue Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 well that was all fun and games , i must get back to my 25 hour shift making shoelaces with no toilet breaks whilst my English master whips me if I make any less than 90 shoe laces per minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 well that was all fun and games , i must get back to my 25 hour shift making shoelaces with no toilet breaks whilst my English master whips me if I make any less than 90 shoe laces per minute. Make a noose with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AeroZeppelin Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Yes, cause no voters will have voted yes due to a chip on their shoulder with England. Get over it mate and move forward But why do you think they have the chip in the first place you clown? Cause England fuckin govern us and we don't want that. Yesterday was our chance to lose the chip and become friends. It's gonne now, plus our faith in Scotland. This is by far the saddest day in Scottish history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour Skinner Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Just listening to radio Scotland & apparently Milliband has just refused to sign up to Cameron devolution plans... Well that took long! If this is true milliband can say goodbye to any voters he has left up here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Heliums Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Labour will turn it into a Labour v Tory fight over devolution. Its the only way they think they can regain votes in Scotland. They must think we're gullible, but after yesterday, they have some evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Just listening to radio Scotland & apparently Milliband has just refused to sign up to Cameron devolution plans... Well that took long! Ed isn't that daft is he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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