Scottish Independence

[ayrmad 3,492]

Aye, but its all part of his strategy (see my signature). He is desperate to make the thread so boring that nobody participates. We have to make sure that the law squad is kept in check.

I prefer the inch of rope approach, they've got nothing else to add to the debate anyway.

[xbl 1,233]

I prefer the inch of rope approach, they've got nothing else to add to the debate anyway.

True, but what they do is suck the life OUT of it. Nobody wants to join in if they see 27 pages about sub section 27 of paragraph 3 of the 1987 convention of Prague. Likewise we can see that HB is at it with his support for independence going from static to plummeting, all within 20 posts. He's a liar, and he exists purely to stop other people taking an interest. So I prefer to see it pointed out, and then have him and Ad Lib sent to the correct threads.

[H_B 1,715]

I prefer the inch of rope approach, they've got nothing else to add to the debate anyway.

Answer the question. Stop pointing at squirrels.

Why has Yes become less popular with TNS-BMRB respondents since April?

Edited December 20, 2013 by H_B

[ayrmad 3,492]

Just to avoid doubt here, you are saying that going from 33% in February, to 30% in April, to now 26% in November is positive momentum for Yes?

Stop throwing new dates into the scenario.

[Ad Lib 2,622]

Honestly, this is tragic.

Saying that because there was a well within margin of error increase in the Yes vote up to not even three tenths of the electorate there is "positive momentum" after a 10 month fall of more than double the margin of error is like saying that a football team that started off with 4 wins on the bounce, then lost 6 games, then got a draw has "positive momentum".

[ayrmad 3,492]

Answer the question.

Why has Yes become less popular with TNS-BMRB respondents since April?

It hasn't, you just can't see it because you're arithmetical skills aren't at the level your gub is.

[H_B 1,715]

Stop throwing new dates into the scenario.

Yeah, it's inconvenient isn't it when you don't get to pick your own dates?

Let's take this a step at a time.

Do you dispute that TNS-BMRB had support for Yes at 30% in April and 33% in February?

[xbl 1,233]

So its static, its increasing within the margin of error, and yet, it is also plummeting. Crivvens! Polling thread for these lies.

[Ad Lib 2,622]

It hasn't, you just can't see it because you're arithmetical skills aren't at the level your gub is.

Percentage of people supporting independence according to TNS in:

February - 33%

April - 30%

December - 27%

Do you dispute that 27 is less than 30 and that 30 is less than 33?

[ayrmad 3,492]

Honestly, this is tragic.

Saying that because there was a well within margin of error increase in the Yes vote up to not even three tenths of the electorate there is "positive momentum" after a 10 month fall of more than double the margin of error is like saying that a football team that started off with 4 wins on the bounce, then lost 6 games, then got a draw has "positive momentum".

If it's higher than yesterday it's momentum, you can fcuk off with your margin of error pish because they could have been 37.32%-margin in April and 38.24%+margin now.

[ayrmad 3,492]

Yeah, it's inconvenient isn't it when you don't get to pick your own dates?

Let's take this a step at a time.

Do you dispute that TNS-BMRB had support for Yes at 30% in April and 33% in February?

It was you that introduced April and now not me, you made a c**t of it, deal with it.

[H_B 1,715]

If it's higher than yesterday it's momentum, you can fcuk off with your margin of error pish because they could have been 37.32%-margin in April and 38.24%+margin now.

Answer the question.

[xbl 1,233]

Percentage of people supporting independence according to TNS in:

February - 33%

April - 30%

December - 27%

Do you dispute that 27 is less than 30 and that 30 is less than 33?

You seem to have contradicted yourself here. What happened to static and no change? Honestly, polling thread for these lies!

[xbl 1,233]

Answer the question.

Polling thread for these lies.

[Ad Lib 2,622]

So its static, its increasing within the margin of error, and yet, it is also plummeting. Crivvens! Polling thread for these lies.

The issue is time. With TNS there is some (within margin of error) positive momentum within the last 3 months, from a very low base. The "within margin of error" means we should take it with a pinch of salt as it could indicate that things are still static or even that there is a (very slight) negative momentum. There is a distinct negative momentum well beyond the margin of error in TNS polls within the last 10 months. In this respect, therefore, any "short term" positive momentum is simply serving to (partially) cancel out the significant long-term negative momentum.

Over the course of the much longer term, most polling companies and "poll of polls" have indicated that the level of support for independence has not fluctuated more than 3-5% above or below 30% (in a poll including a Don't Know option). This is what pollsters would broadly consider to be "static".

[H_B 1,715]

It was you that introduced April and now not me, you made a c**t of it, deal with it.

Answer the question.

Step 1 -

"Do you dispute that TNS-BMRB had support for Yes at 30% in April and 33% in February?"

[wingsoverperthshire 99]

Honestly, this is tragic.

Saying that because there was a well within margin of error increase in the Yes vote up to not even three tenths of the electorate there is "positive momentum" after a 10 month fall of more than double the margin of error is like saying that a football team that started off with 4 wins on the bounce, then lost 6 games, then got a draw has "positive momentum".

^^^

That was absolutely tragic.

If the Yes vote was at 3/10th of the electorate we would be nearly home and dry. IT's crystal clear to everyone bar you with your hand in the sand unionistic leanings. The No vote is in collapse people are switching to undecided and learning about both camps and the future. Throw in the national bounce of the commonwealth games and the introduction of the greatest politician in this country and Yes will prevail. A month or so ago it was a 50/50 shot. Yes are the more likely winners now.

This isn't based on dodgy Daily Mail polls, just raw common sense. The campaign simply couldn't be going anymore to plan.

[Ad Lib 2,622]

^^^

That was absolutely tragic.

If the Yes vote was at 3/10th of the electorate we would be nearly home and dry. IT's crystal clear to everyone bar you with your hand in the sand unionistic leanings. The No vote is in collapse people are switching to undecided and learning about both camps and the future. Throw in the national bounce of the commonwealth games and the introduction of the greatest politician in this country and Yes will prevail. A month or so ago it was a 50/50 shot. Yes are the more likely winners now.

This isn't based on dodgy Daily Mail polls, just raw common sense. The campaign simply couldn't be going anymore to plan.

Newsflash WOP. Getting 30% of the vote is about as "home and dry" as drowning in Loch Ness just before it freezes over.

[Dipped Flake 90]

Answer the question.

Step 1 -

"Do you dispute that TNS-BMRB had support for Yes at 30% in April and 33% in February?"

Can I just interrupt to say - Polling thread for this pish

[wingsoverperthshire 99]

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