Confidemus Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Not sure if this has been posted before, if the cartoons had depicted somebody else in the condem government, there'd be an outcry imo. Surprised Salmond is disliked this much down South, when you have the likes of Boris hosting HIGNFY and Nigel Farage presenting the weather. http://www.pieandbovril.com/forum/index.php/topic/210780-they-love-scotland/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 The people sitting at this table want you to vote No. Just lets think about that for a while.... That picture actually makes me feel a little queasy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarusQPFC Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Ironically Cameron and Osborne are actually pushing me towards a yes vote, rather than a no vote. I was a solid no vote 6 months ago, I'm still not 100% decided, but I'm definitely learning towards yes. This oil discussion was yet another nudge towards yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jambo-rocker Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 So because I live in a "safe" SNP seat, means I must vote SNP and agree with SNP policies , no thanks have a mind of my own, but I will have to correct one thing, I now know 1 person who will vote for independence, Yeah, because that's what he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Ironically Cameron and Osborne are actually pushing me towards a yes vote, rather than a no vote. I was a solid no vote 6 months ago, I'm still not 100% decided, but I'm definitely learning towards yes. This oil discussion was yet another nudge towards yes. What in particular about yesterday nudged you further towards Yes, just out of interest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 The people sitting at this table want you to vote No. Just lets think about that for a while.... Im on my way to london a paper i never bought or read but i might grab a few copies from the lounge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Do you have any proof that the UK Government were the first government to plan a meeting in Aberdeen this week and that the Scottish Government have simply based their plans on this? Who did it first is irrelevant. Holding Cabinet meetings "around the country" is a publicity stunt that substitutes TV cameras in a place with slower WiFi in place of, you know, actual localism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Who did it first is irrelevant. Holding Cabinet meetings "around the country" is a publicity stunt that substitutes TV cameras in a place with slower WiFi in place of, you know, actual localism. Surely it's only a publicity stunt if you do it as a 1 off like Westminster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarusQPFC Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 What in particular about yesterday nudged you further towards Yes, just out of interest? Cameron saying we need the UK Economy to manage the oil reserves, as if we couldn't manage it ourselves. We have no right to the pound but have to take a share of their debts. It's all just pretty insulting to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Cameron saying we need the UK Economy to manage the oil reserves, as if we couldn't manage it ourselves. We have no right to the pound but have to take a share of their debts. It's all just pretty insulting to me. It's pretty insulting to anyone with a brain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Surprised to see that DR front page, I thought they are/were pro-union. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Surprised to see that DR front page, I thought they are/were pro-union. They are pro-poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SodjesSixteenIncher Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 BUT WHAT DO DA MEDAL WINNIN CURLERS FINK ABOUT SEPRATION? CUD BE MASSIVE BLOW FOR SNP ???? Always one step ahead of the most important issues, I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecto Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Do you have any proof that the UK Government were the first government to plan a meeting in Aberdeen this week and that the Scottish Government have simply based their plans on this? They were both there to endorse a report, which they could have done from Edinburgh and London, both an appalling waste of money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Surely it's only a publicity stunt if you do it as a 1 off like Westminster? But it isn't a one-off. Westminster has held Cabinet in various places since (IIRC) Blair reintroduced the idea of roaming cabinet meetings more than a decade ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamaldo Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 But it isn't a one-off. Westminster has held Cabinet in various places since (IIRC) Blair reintroduced the idea of roaming cabinet meetings more than a decade ago. I'm still looking for proof that the Scottish Government essentially followed the UK Government to Aberdeen to hold a cabinet meeting at the same time as Cameron and Co, as a cheap stunt. Are you going to admit you were talking complete and utter bollocks when you said this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 I'm still looking for proof that the Scottish Government essentially followed the UK Government to Aberdeen to hold a cabinet meeting at the same time as Cameron and Co, as a cheap stunt. Are you going to admit you were talking complete and utter bollocks when you said this? I didn't say they followed them! Read what I said. I said that that the Scottish Government's decision to hold Cabinet somewhere other than Edinburgh was every bit as much of a publicity stunt as the UK Cabinet's decision to hold one in Aberdeen, much like when it has also held Cabinet meetings in other parts of the UK outside of London. All of these exercises are stunts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamaldo Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 I didn't say they followed them! Read what I said. I said that that the Scottish Government's decision to hold Cabinet somewhere other than Edinburgh was every bit as much of a publicity stunt as the UK Cabinet's decision to hold one in Aberdeen, much like when it has also held Cabinet meetings in other parts of the UK outside of London. All of these exercises are stunts. In your original post you made reference to the two meetings being held at the same time. If the UK government weren't holding any cabinet meeting would you still be saying it was a political stunt from the SNP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 In your original post you made reference to the two meetings being held at the same time. If the UK government weren't holding any cabinet meeting would you still be saying it was a political stunt from the SNP? I made reference to the two meetings being held at the same time. I did not say that the Scottish Government retrospectively chose to hold their Cabinet meeting in Portlethen. Those are different things. My point was much simpler than that. All Cabinet meetings not held in their usual place are stunts, whether held by the UK Government or the Scottish Government, whenever they are held. People to go "haw the UK government are doing a stunt" should probably also go "haw the Scottish Government are doing a stunt" if they wish to avoid hypocrisy. I happen not to care at all about these stunts, whether conducted by Westminster or Holyrood's executive branch. Those that claim one side is worse than the other for this, however, are running an agenda and expressing selective outrage, because both governments are doing exactly the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 I believe next month could very well be a defining moment in the referendum campaign. The Labour conference will be held in March and Lamont will announce what new powers (if any) they will devolve to Holyrood if there is a No vote. Rumours of infighting and the possibility of boycotts of the conference over the announcement, it puts Lamont under the spotlight and real pressure as leader. Too little powers and "don't know" voters could turn to Yes. Any substantial powers could cause a rift within the party leading up to the referendum vote which wouldn't play well with the electorate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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