Confidemus Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Singling out Rangers fans as part of the voting demographic is the pisser for you. Makes you look a complete moron. Yeah, except I didn't single out Rangers fans. Unlucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 ^^^This. Too many uneducated uninformed YES voters thinking 'FREEEEDOMM!!!' Enjoy your gloat. I hope you're still here when 1.6 million of us can say "told ye". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capybara Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Interesting that Glasgow and Dundee were in the Yes camp though. Two cities that were bastions of the Labour party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Wasn't convinced on the bookie thing being based on inside knowledge, doesn't mean I thought there was going to be a Yes by that point. I went to sleep before the Clackmannanshire result and didn't watch the results as I had initially planned to do because I could see which way the wind was blowing. The complete failure to understand why the odds on No were so low was a general failing in posters. The nonsense Ross was peddling for example Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinkinFighter Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Can someone ban 8mile again? What a fucking cretin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Will be interesting to see how many (if any) Labour yesses move away from Labour now altogether. I'd guess that some of them at least won't be voting Labour next Scottish Election Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallo_Madrid Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 At the end of the day financial uncertainty is the winner. Farmers concerned with losing EU grants and middle-age to older people concerned with losing more money from their pension pots if markets were to plummet with a Yes vote after just coming through a recession. Pound up, markets up this morning. I'm no economist but I have to assume it would have been the opposite with Yes. Facebook is a fucking bombscare this morning though. Words being banded about such as "shitebags" is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speckled tangerine Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Will be interesting to see how many (if any) Labour yesses move away from Labour now altogether. I'd guess that some of them at least won't be voting Labour next Scottish Election To be honest, i secretly hope Jolo is the first minister in 2016. A shite labour Scottish government enacting shite new powers would at least give us some "telt ye" material when we head down the pan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tio Pepe Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Unlucky yes campaigners. The guys on the right side off the argument won in my opinion. Not a time for recriminations but a time to accept the result and move on. Most will. The debate at times has been good, at other times not so good but there will always be zoomers on a forum. Thanks to those who tried to keep it adult and sensible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 The complete failure to understand why the odds on No were so low was a general failing in posters. The nonsense Ross was peddling for example All I was pointing out was that they are out to make a buck first and foremost and are not an infallible prediction service. The moment there was talk of No winning Clackmannanshire and Falkirk that was obviously based on rumours from people at the counts and of Alex Salmond having decided to give his local count the body swerve it was game over. At that point the drift in the odds was reflecting solid insider information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 ^^^This. Too many uneducated uninformed YES voters thinking 'FREEEEDOMM!!!' I've two degrees and voted Yes. You are a simpleton and voted No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbi Williams Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 I've two degrees and voted Yes. You are a simpleton and voted No. unless your 2 degrees are Masters in British political history your argument is invalid. How can you be such a snob? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Not a time for recriminations but a time to accept the result and move on. Most will. In time, I will forgive. Course I will. But I will never, ever forget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravabelli Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Too many uneducated NO voters fearing change but they will get it anyway only it will be on westminsters terms, tory terms and to appease the English vote and quite rightly so, if I was them id be pissed off at the prime minister making promises he cant possibly keep to Scotland too! A chance missed I think and one we may all come to regret whether you voted yes or no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orlandoblue Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Enjoy your gloat. I hope you're still here when 1.6 million of us can say "told ye". There's no gloat here. Only exposing your bitterness. I already said what ever way it went would be a problem due to the huge numbers that didn't get what they wanted. You just look a bit silly with the "it was the big bad Rangers fans" patter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky88 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 It's no coincidence that virtually every No voter I've seen on TV over the past few days has been either elderly, or English, or both.that channel 4 debate programme had Brian cox, alan cumming and Irvine welsh..... The yes campaign couldn't even get people with a vote to support their campaign. Oh apart from Brian soutar..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spain Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 We've just done this: Which has left us with this: We all know fine well it's the 1p that's in that box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 All I was pointing out was that they are out to make a buck first and foremost and are not an infallible prediction service. The moment there was talk of No winning Clackmannanshire and Falkirk that was obviously based on rumours from people at the counts and of Alex Salmond having decided to give his local count the body swerve it was game over. At that point the drift in the odds was reflecting solid insider information. The game was up after Peter Kellner called it. That's when the odds on No changed dramatically. No one has said they are infallible. Where people failed was in assuming that the reason No was long odds on was a cunning ploy to attract money on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 unless your 2 degrees are Masters in British political history your argument is invalid. How can you be such a snob? Point being, I am educated. A degree teaches core skills and proves you are educated to a certain level. I don't shout "freedom" or paint my face, or wear 'see you Jimmy hats'. Portraying the Yes vote as uneducated is wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 I think people are ignoring the big boon this morning... Casual Bystander/Perthshire Bell has fucked off again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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