La_Leyenda Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 And all of this sterling work contributed to a colossal single place rise in the table as well as the biggest spend ever seen in the Motherwell club shop, of course. Like I said, the club were bottom and being absolutely horsed by everyone when he took over. He maybe didn't make us successful, but clearly his last game, where we were a goal away from the top six, is not as bad as getting thumped 9-0. It's also interesting how much emphasis is placed on league finishes as a sign of success. Had the Dons found one goal in Brown's last game, they would have been top 6 and we'd all be saying Brown at least took us back to the top half. On the other hand, had Aberdeen not found a late goal in a similar play-off v Falkirk in 07, Calderwood would have taken the team to the bottom 6. We actually finished 4th that season which everyone appears to find very impressive. Likewise, had Dundee United earned just a point from their final three games in 08, Aberdeen wouldn't have made Europe, meaning in Calderwood's 5 seasons at Pittodrie, he'd have qualified for Europe only once, and his sacking maybe wouldn't have been seen as so outrageous either. Funny how things look when you merely look at a league table, and not how good the team actually were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted November 12, 2013 Author Share Posted November 12, 2013 Like I said, the club were bottom and being absolutely horsed by everyone when he took over. He maybe didn't make us successful, but clearly his last game, where we were a goal away from the top six, is not as bad as getting thumped 9-0. It's also interesting how much emphasis is placed on league finishes as a sign of success. Had the Dons found one goal in Brown's last game, they would have been top 6 and we'd all be saying Brown at least took us back to the top half. On the other hand, had Aberdeen not found a late goal in a similar play-off v Falkirk in 07, Calderwood would have taken the team to the bottom 6. We actually finished 4th that season which everyone appears to find very impressive. Likewise, had Dundee United earned just a point from their final three games in 08, Aberdeen wouldn't have made Europe, meaning in Calderwood's 5 seasons at Pittodrie, he'd have qualified for Europe only once, and his sacking maybe wouldn't have been seen as so outrageous either. Funny how things look when you merely look at a league table, and not how good the team actually were. Why only look at the league table when we can look at the £1.5 million loss from last season. I don't think Craig Brown can make up that spending outlay in the club shop this Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisGRAEME Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Like I said, the club were bottom and being absolutely horsed by everyone when he took over. He maybe didn't make us successful, but clearly his last game, where we were a goal away from the top six, is not as bad as getting thumped 9-0. It's also interesting how much emphasis is placed on league finishes as a sign of success. Had the Dons found one goal in Brown's last game, they would have been top 6 and we'd all be saying Brown at least took us back to the top half. On the other hand, had Aberdeen not found a late goal in a similar play-off v Falkirk in 07, Calderwood would have taken the team to the bottom 6. We actually finished 4th that season which everyone appears to find very impressive. Likewise, had Dundee United earned just a point from their final three games in 08, Aberdeen wouldn't have made Europe, meaning in Calderwood's 5 seasons at Pittodrie, he'd have qualified for Europe only once, and his sacking maybe wouldn't have been seen as so outrageous either. Funny how things look when you merely look at a league table, and not how good the team actually were. Very good, very long. I mean, however you want to phrase it, go ahead. But Brown finished one place ahead of where McGhee did, in a league without rangers, also signed shite, also got gubbed in cups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raidernation Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Personally, I'd recommend putting a tablespoon of vinegar in and stirring the water first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7-2 Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 And all of this sterling work contributed to a colossal single place rise in the table as well as the biggest spend ever seen in the Motherwell club shop, of course. Why only look at the league table when we can look at the £1.5 million loss from last season. I don't think Craig Brown can make up that spending outlay in the club shop this Christmas. What's the story about Brown and the club shop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted November 13, 2013 Author Share Posted November 13, 2013 He tried to explain that we shouldn't view him as a traitor and judas for leaving us in the lurch because he spent a bit of money in the shop. This was after Boyle confronted him on the touchline “I’d like to say to the fans who berated me that I’ve put a lot of money into the Phil O’Donnell fund and spent more than £300 in the Motherwell shop after I’d left the club,” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7-2 Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 That is sad. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice Terry 1875 Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 So is the general consencous that clubs who are into poaching managers usually end up with egg on their faces? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pull My Strings Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Levein was statistically probably the worst manager we've ever had. So much so we weren't even paying him (don't know if he's a Raith supporter). "Statistically probably" - sounds like you've got all the answers at your fingertips. My recollection, from the outside and without the benefit of empirical research, is that Levein was helping out his local club, for free, and keeping his hand in whilst looking for a proper job, Raith were mince at the time and he didn't oversee a slump during his ten odd games in charge. You'll ken better than me though. I do like the suggestion that he wasn't getting paid because he was pish though, rather than because Raith are a charity case. Nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 If any team would like to poach Alan Johnstone I will supply the water & a very big pan Surely he's more or a roaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted November 13, 2013 Author Share Posted November 13, 2013 So is the general consencous that clubs who are into poaching managers usually end up with egg on their faces? Especially those poaching Inverness managers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice Terry 1875 Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Especially those poaching Inverness managers.I'm laying my hopes on Butcher - although my judgement may be scrambled somewhat so I won't be counting my chickens yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
top six next year Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Poaching ICTFC managers? Steve Paterson going to The Famous springs to mind after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Marly Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Poaching ICTFC managers? Steve Paterson going to The Famous springs to mind after. After what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garybs Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 What about Walter Smith from Scotland to Rangers (the second time) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 What about Walter Smith from Scotland to Rangers (the second time) Pretty sure Scotland aren't a top flight club side. Our poaching of Jim Jefferies from Falkirk worked out rather well for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALDERON Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Like I said, the club were bottom and being absolutely horsed by everyone when he took over. He maybe didn't make us successful, but clearly his last game, where we were a goal away from the top six, is not as bad as getting thumped 9-0. It's also interesting how much emphasis is placed on league finishes as a sign of success. Had the Dons found one goal in Brown's last game, they would have been top 6 and we'd all be saying Brown at least took us back to the top half. On the other hand, had Aberdeen not found a late goal in a similar play-off v Falkirk in 07, Calderwood would have taken the team to the bottom 6. We actually finished 4th that season which everyone appears to find very impressive. Likewise, had Dundee United earned just a point from their final three games in 08, Aberdeen wouldn't have made Europe, meaning in Calderwood's 5 seasons at Pittodrie, he'd have qualified for Europe only once, and his sacking maybe wouldn't have been seen as so outrageous either. Funny how things look when you merely look at a league table, and not how good the team actually were. League table never lies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice Terry 1875 Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Pretty sure Scotland aren't a top flight club side. Our poaching of Jim Jefferies from Falkirk worked out rather well for us. Didn't he end up getting sacked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Didn't he end up getting sacked? He resigned in his first spell. He also led us to our first trophy in 36 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estragon Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Kilmarnock are currently basking in the afterglow of a hugely successful managerial poach. Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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