Jim McLean's Ghost Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 Terry Butcher has been poached by Hibs, so historically how has it worked out for managers moving between sides in the top flight? There are a few examples I can remember and they are pretty mixed bag. Aberdeen Mark McGhee - Motherwell - Eh, not successful would be the polite way of putting this Craig Brown - Motherwell - Moved upstairs to make room for a new man, had minimal impact, as bad as McGhee Jimmy Calderwood - Dunfermline - Those Dandies are poaching bassas. Calderwood decent enough but left under somewhat strange circumstances having just qualified for Europe Celtic Tommy Burns - Kilmarnock - Won a Scottish Cup which might have been a success for Celtic at the time Dundee United Craig Brewster - ICT - This might be the worst poaching of a manager ever HIbernian Terry Butcher - ICT - Let's wait and see Bobby Williamson - Kilmarnock - I don't remember how he got on at Hibs Alex McLeish - Motherwell - Couldn't save them from relegation but won promotion, then appears again on the list Hearts John Robertson - ICT - Binned less than a year later Tommy McLean - Motherwell - Technically resigned but found his way to Tynie less that two weeks laters binned in a year Rangers Alex McLeish - Hibernian - Won a fair whack at Rangers but was never really convincing, held his own against Martin O'Neill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArabFC Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 Dundee United also poached Craig Levein from Raith Rovers to replace Brewster, which worked out pretty fcuking well for us. Not so much for Scotland though! Co-incidentally, we also nicked Tommy McLean from Raith Rovers, and he was fanbloodytastic for around 9 months! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache Don Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 Perhaps managers should be subject to the same transfer windows as players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted November 11, 2013 Author Share Posted November 11, 2013 If we were going to count pinching lower league managers the list would be a fair bit longer. Top flight thievery only. Stealing managers from ICT doesn't look like it works out very well. Remember Aberdeen nicked Steve Paterson from them as well. Signs don't look good for Hibs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotbawmad Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 Dundee United also poached Craig Levein from Raith Rovers to replace Brewster, which worked out pretty fcuking well for us. Not so much for Scotland though! Co-incidentally, we also nicked Tommy McLean from Raith Rovers, and he was fanbloodytastic for around 9 months! Levein was statistically probably the worst manager we've ever had. So much so we weren't even paying him (don't know if he's a Raith supporter). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La_Leyenda Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 Craig Brown - Motherwell - Moved upstairs to make room for a new man, had minimal impact, as bad as McGhee Utter nonsense. When Brown took over the club were rooted to the bottom of the table and had a few weeks before lost 9-0 to Celtic. We were a shambles when McGhee left. Brown did a job. He didn't do enough to ever be considered a big success, but take into consideration much of the current team is the one he put together, while moving on under achievers like Foster, Diamond, Mackie, etc. McInnes has come in at the right time to take it to the next level. Would McInnes be currently getting these performances out of McGhee's team though? As for Calderwood. Correct appointment at the time. Three good years. Two poor ones. Was right time to go, team were declining under him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted November 11, 2013 Author Share Posted November 11, 2013 Levein was statistically probably the worst manager we've ever had. So much so we weren't even paying him (don't know if he's a Raith supporter). Has Claude Anelka been mentally block from your memory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7-2 Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 United also poached Sturrock from Saints. There's a trend emerging here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotbawmad Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 Has Claude Anelka been mentally block from your memory? We all accept Anelka is the worst manager we've ever had, but the guy who followed (Dalziel) was the worst domestic manager we've ever had. However Levein only managed to win 1 in 7 games while we were in the second division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMMjag Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 Even if they ended their reigns fairly poorly I'd say both Calderwood at Aberdeen and McLeish at Oldco both by and large were successful. But there really aren't many other examples of successful in-league managerial movements. Terry Butcher is doomed to fail at Hibs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyle Lanley Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 Terry Butcher is doomed to fail at Hibs. Unbelievable Give the guy a chance first FFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 Was going to say Steve Paterson, but ICT were in the 1st when he was poached by Aberdeen. Didn't go down so well either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizfit Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 Didn't go down so well either. No but I think the beers did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennysmassiveego Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 If any team would like to poach Alan Johnstone I will supply the water & a very big pan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArabFC Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 Levein was statistically probably the worst manager we've ever had. So much so we weren't even paying him (don't know if he's a Raith supporter). Levein was a Raith fan as a kid, and he was certainly working without a contract, though I'm sure they were paying him something. I think we took Tommy McLean after around 6 days in Kirkcaldy. Going back the years, we nicked Jerry Kerr from Alloa and he worked out pretty damn well. The true 2nd best manager in United's history, no matter what the demented mind of Peter Houston will tell ya! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisGRAEME Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 Utter nonsense. When Brown took over the club were rooted to the bottom of the table and had a few weeks before lost 9-0 to Celtic. We were a shambles when McGhee left. Brown did a job. He didn't do enough to ever be considered a big success, but take into consideration much of the current team is the one he put together, while moving on under achievers like Foster, Diamond, Mackie, etc. McInnes has come in at the right time to take it to the next level. Would McInnes be currently getting these performances out of McGhee's team though? And all of this sterling work contributed to a colossal single place rise in the table as well as the biggest spend ever seen in the Motherwell club shop, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spain Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 Why let other clubs poach your managers? Other than Del heading to Hibs for a brief holiday as assistant, we just sack all of our managers. Moral high ground IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 All our managers get poached by Championship clubs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stumigoo Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 We also poached McCall from Falkirk and spunked huge wads of cash for the privilege (along with 'one good game against Hearts' Samuel, and 'Football Manager legend but shit in real life' Kerr) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice Terry 1875 Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 We poached Yogi that didn't work out. McLeish must be one of the same league exception both with hibs and rangers. Agree Craig Brown done no bad at Aberdeen either whilst Robertson wasn't given a fair crack at the whip at hearts. I hope butcher follows in Jackie Macs example this instance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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