Gordopolis Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 (edited) 21 hours ago, The Algebraist said: Found this article interesting - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46795246 - all very talented youngsters, few really made it. Can you imagine the hype on here if a Scottish player debuted in the Prem at 16? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Fleck_(footballer) Spoiler I know you mean the English Prem, but couldn't resist. Edited January 10, 2019 by Gordopolis 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gannonball Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 On 06/01/2019 at 11:17, Gordopolis said: Be interesting if Hibs get Scott Allan too - two gifted attacking midfielders who just seem to be unable to get their careers going after years of trying I wouldn’t say Allan had years of trying, he doesn’t stike me the consummate professional. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Fleck_(footballer) Spoiler I know you mean the English Prem, but couldn't resist. Exactly, sick off Scottish people refering to the English Premiership as the Premiership. Hate the way that Scotland copied England, but the use of just the premiership should refer to our league. It's shite but it's our shite. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordopolis Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 I wouldn’t say Allan had years of trying, he doesn’t stike me the consummate professional.He doesn't have a rep as a lout or a drinker does he (I genuinely don't know)? He always looks in shape as well. I thought it was more because he is seen as a 'luxury' player. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkoRaj Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Gordopolis said: 5 hours ago, gannonball said: I wouldn’t say Allan had years of trying, he doesn’t stike me the consummate professional. He doesn't have a rep as a lout or a drinker does he (I genuinely don't know)? He always looks in shape as well. I thought it was more because he is seen as a 'luxury' player. His nickname was the "chubby baller" at Hibs was it not? He also had a Billy big time at Dundee Utd as a youngster by all accounts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Ferguson's Hat Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 And 'Long Dong Silver' at Forfar. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Ah yes, the Fleck hype: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/rangers/4425378/Rangers-teenager-John-Fleck-hailed-as-Scotlands-Wayne-Rooney.html As Rangers brace themselves for the possible loss of three first-team regulars - Barry Ferguson, Allan McGregor and Kris Boyd - before the transfer window ends on Monday night, their fans were invited to contemplate the possibility that John Fleck is emerging as Scotland's equivalent of Wayne Rooney. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 "Lock up yer grannies" - P&B of 2009 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordopolis Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Fulton "The Tartan Baggio"Donnelly "Dalglish-like"Burchill "Scotland's answer to Michael Owen"Fleck "The Scottish Wayne Rooney"Gauld "Baby Messi"Burke "The Scottish Bale"Has any Scottish player ever come close to justifying silly comparisons like these? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkoRaj Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 You forgot the Scottish Cafu 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkoRaj Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 I was going to say Robertson the new Roberto Carlos but that only seems to have been said after he actually reached the top level 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forameus Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Gordopolis said: Fulton "The Tartan Baggio" Donnelly "Dalglish-like" Burchill "Scotland's answer to Michael Owen" Fleck "The Scottish Wayne Rooney" Gauld "Baby Messi" Burke "The Scottish Bale" Has any Scottish player ever come close to justifying silly comparisons like these? No Scottish player has ever lived up to any comparison, ever. Well, no positive ones anyway. Yet still we keep doing it (as a wider fanbase at least) despite every time we say "this guy's the answer", it very quickly shows that if he was, then we had the wrong question. There's always such a desperation for success. I guess it's kind of understandable given how poor we've been for years, but putting so much hope on players so early is never going to work. Gauld and Burke should be shining examples of that. Just let the guys find their way in the game without expecting the world, because the next step then always becomes the "see! He wis shite awalong!" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 I have no problem with people being enthusiastic about young promising Scottish players, and let's face it. That's all it is. And it certainly beats the idiots who seem desperate to shoot them down at every opportunity. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forameus Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 7 minutes ago, Principal Flutie said: I have no problem with people being enthusiastic about young promising Scottish players, and let's face it. That's all it is. And it certainly beats the idiots who seem desperate to shoot them down at every opportunity. I wouldn't say either extreme is that helpful. There's certainly a core of people who want to shit on everything, which is troubling, but there's also those - as evidenced by the first few pages of the Burke thread - that are happy to heap all kinds of praise on a young guy who very well could end up being little more than just quite good at football. Burke is a very good footballer, and Gauld is a very good footballer, and both still have the potential to be very important to us. I know it's the internet and everything, and you've often got to jump with gusto to one extreme or the other, but some people just need to calm down a bit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 It's not helpful, but I don't think it's exactly damaging either. Don't think the other extreme does much either tbh, but the enthusiasm is much more understandable, and I don't understand why so many people shut it down, especially with the glee that many do. I'm all for people getting enthusiastic about young players if there's reason to be, and there has been in these cases. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordopolis Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 You forgot the Scottish CafuOr the White Cafu (probably non PC these days)He was great for about 1 year then meh ever since 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordopolis Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Anyway, Ryan Gauld:https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/46828106...can't even get into the side for a Hibs friendly.Finished! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop Briggs Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 3 hours ago, Gordopolis said: Anyway, Ryan Gauld:https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/46828106 ...can't even get into the side for a Hibs friendly. Finished! Finished because he can't play because of a paperwork delay? That's rather sad and pathetic even for a Deebag. -3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordopolis Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Finished because he can't play because of a paperwork delay? That's rather sad and pathetic even for a Deebag.Whoosh/I was being sarcastic. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 39 minutes ago, Bishop Briggs said: Finished because he can't play because of a paperwork delay? That's rather sad and pathetic even for a Deebag. Oh my! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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