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Liverpool City Council Ban FOBTs In Betting Shops

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Was going to post this in the gambling forum, but I figure that more people would read it on here.

Liverpool City Council have voted to ban FOBTs in betting shops, as people are capable of losing hundreds of pounds within a few minutes.

I think it's fantastic news. I'm all for people having a flutter if they want to, but these machines are designed to cause addiction, not a one-off punt on a horse or a football match - and in 20 years we'll look back at the amount of lives and families that have been ripped apart by problem gambling and wonder how successive governments made it so easy to do.

Hopefully the next stop is to limit the over-proliferation of gambling adverts (games and sports) on television.

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A Fixed Odds Betting Terminal. Pretty much an electronic casino. Betting shops are allowed a maximum of 4 in each shop. This is why you see a cluster of betting shops together (and often the same) chain, so that they can have more than 4 in each town.

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What's a FOBT?

This

You can barely turn on the TV these days without see an Ad for a bookies, its obscene plus the amount of things you can bet on, for instance who will win the coin toss,

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You can barely turn on the TV these days without see an Ad for a bookies, its obscene plus the amount of things you can bet on, for instance who will win the coin toss,

I've seen the "who will win a coin toss" bet before. It's the easiest way to see how a bookie makes money.

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Or someone could simply not use the machines.

Thought I'd get in there first. Addiction is a terrible and powerful thing. Much like the power of love, except you DO need credits card to ride on this train (addition, not love).

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This is fantastic news. These terminals are not designed for the occasional punter wanting a small wager on the afternoon's results.

These are preying on people with a problem. Look in bookies up and down the land at guys stuffing tenner after tenner in these terminals, betting on a fake roulette spin.

People these days have so much easy access to gambling at stakes that would make you sweat! Online casinos, FOBT's and the advertising is very prevalent if you are watching a sports channel with either Chris Kamara or Ray Winstone giving you the latest odds.

A major epidemic waiting to happen

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Out of interest what odds do they offer on the coin toss?

At my work so can't check. Usually one outcome is slightly less than 0.5, and one slightly more than 0.5, but they only usually add up to 0.97 or 0.98 (when converted to decimal odds).

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This is fantastic news. These terminals are not designed for the occasional punter wanting a small wager on the afternoon's results.

These are preying on people with a problem. Look in bookies up and down the land at guys stuffing tenner after tenner in these terminals, betting on a fake roulette spin.

People these days have so much easy access to gambling at stakes that would make you sweat! Online casinos, FOBT's and the advertising is very prevalent if you are watching a sports channel with either Chris Kamara or Ray Winstone giving you the latest odds.

A major epidemic waiting to happen

The worst advert is the professional-looking couple (woman has long blonde hair, looks a bit dirty) gambling away on their phones / tablets whilst sat on the couch next to each other. As if the gambling industry are telling young, professional couples that "this is what you should be spending your evenings doing".

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There's a really good Dispatches documentary on it here: http://www.channel4.com/programmes/dispatches/videos/all/britains-high-street-gamble.

The interesting side of it is that the gambling industry claim that they don't put bookies in areas of multiple social deprivation. There is one bookie in David Cameron's home town, tucked up a side alley. There are streets in towns with eleven or twelve bookies within a two-minute walk of each other.

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I think this is a good thing, despite generally not being in favour of banning things. I've seen people lose a lot of money on these. Described as 'the crack cocaine of gambling' and with good cause. There's no coincidence that in most high streets where there are a proliferation of bookies there are also payday lender and pawnshops nearby. It's a serious problem for a lot of people.

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I must admit, i've never gambled a penny in my life (not even the lottery) never seen the appeal

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No doubt the bookies will try to get the government involved. Guaranteed income for the treasury will not be easy to ban countrywide if other councils take the same steps. Puggies could be next if the bookies nightmare goes nationwide.

I'm amazed that a 10p in the £1 gambling tax didn't come back in before folk with an extra bedroom got penalised. It's a funny old world. f**k up folk with little chance of changing their circumstances before putting a tax on folk who fling money around for pleasure, or the businesses that they throw their money at.

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The worst advert is the professional-looking couple (woman has long blonde hair, looks a bit dirty) gambling away on their phones / tablets whilst sat on the couch next to each other. As if the gambling industry are telling young, professional couples that "this is what you should be spending your evenings doing".

Oh aye, I know that one.

Even radio shows are now having things sponsored by betting companies, and even invite guests on to tell you the odds on the big games coming up.

It's little things like this whilst listening to TALKshite on the way to work that adds up.

I know people will start to bang on about personal responsibility, and I agree to an extent, but the authorities need to be looking at clamping down on this in your face advertising.

Anyway, I am moving off topic here. FOBT's - awful cash cows for the bookie!

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There's a really good Dispatches documentary on it here: http://www.channel4.com/programmes/dispatches/videos/all/britains-high-street-gamble.

The interesting side of it is that the gambling industry claim that they don't put bookies in areas of multiple social deprivation. There is one bookie in David Cameron's home town, tucked up a side alley. There are streets in towns with eleven or twelve bookies within a two-minute walk of each other.

Dumfries town centre is becoming like this.

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At my work so can't check. Usually one outcome is slightly less than 0.5, and one slightly more than 0.5, but they only usually add up to 0.97 or 0.98 (when converted to decimal odds).

Are they not both slightly less? If not can you point be in the direction of the ones offering more than 0.5 sounds like free money.

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Are they not both slightly less? If not can you point be in the direction of the ones offering more than 0.5 sounds like free money.

I am an idiot. Of course both would be less. It's been a long day!

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I'm not really a fan of banning things either but all for this. I think banning gambling advertising would be something I would approve of too.

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