Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 (edited) I was driven home tonight in a Leaf taxi, I was alarmed at the rate that the battery % dropped over a 20 mile journey. I will need a lot of convincing that electric is the way forward. ETA, the driver said that charging wasn't a problem to him as the company he worked for had a car on charge and when his car battery was depleting , he just swapped over. f**k that. Edited April 28, 2019 by Zen Archer 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pub car king Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Electric cars are still in their infancy but have progressed at some rate. That said the range and time taken to charge is still the issue until they can be fully charged in the time it takes to fill up with fuel they're not going to be a viable option for a lot of people. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 6 hours ago, Zen Archer said: I was driven home tonight in a Leaf taxi, I was alarmed at the rate that the battery % dropped over a 20 mile journey. The battery did well IMO. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 6 hours ago, Zen Archer said: I was driven home tonight in a Leaf taxi, I was alarmed at the rate that the battery % dropped over a 20 mile journey. I will need a lot of convincing that electric is the way forward. ETA, the driver said that charging wasn't a problem to him as the company he worked for had a car on charge and when his car battery was depleting , he just swapped over. f**k that. ^^^Lives quarter of a mile from the pub, but taxi drivers take the pish out him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 One of the other issues with electric cars is their second hand rate, not flushed out yet as difficult to ascertain average costs of cell changes. Oh and you can't hear the fuckers creeping up on you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 17 hours ago, Rugster said: Take it to a garage you tight c**t. This. If your cars just bought and under warranty, and develops a fault, dont hum, haw and speculate about what's gone wrong. You have the right to take it back to the seller (who potentially knows what the issue is), and they have the right to get one attempt to sort it. Going down any other route just muddies the waters if you reach the stage of handing the car back. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 This. If your cars just bought and under warranty, and develops a fault, dont hum, haw and speculate about what's gone wrong. You have the right to take it back to the seller (who potentially knows what the issue is), and they have the right to get one attempt to sort it. Going down any other route just muddies the waters if you reach the stage of handing the car back.I am taking it back this week, I emailed them on Friday and will drop it in. I was just trying to do some independent research in meantime. I obviously thought, quite incorrectly, that out of the 49k registered members on P&B that one person might understand the mechanisms of a faulty Duel mass flywheel. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopburn boy Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 5 hours ago, John Lambies Doos said: 5 hours ago, RandomGuy. said: This. If your cars just bought and under warranty, and develops a fault, dont hum, haw and speculate about what's gone wrong. You have the right to take it back to the seller (who potentially knows what the issue is), and they have the right to get one attempt to sort it. Going down any other route just muddies the waters if you reach the stage of handing the car back. I am taking it back this week, I emailed them on Friday and will drop it in. I was just trying to do some independent research in meantime. I obviously thought, quite incorrectly, that out of the 49k registered members on P&B that one person might understand the mechanisms of a faulty Duel mass flywheel. Duel mass , is that some sort of fighting priest ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, John Lambies Doos said: 5 hours ago, RandomGuy. said: This. If your cars just bought and under warranty, and develops a fault, dont hum, haw and speculate about what's gone wrong. You have the right to take it back to the seller (who potentially knows what the issue is), and they have the right to get one attempt to sort it. Going down any other route just muddies the waters if you reach the stage of handing the car back. I am taking it back this week, I emailed them on Friday and will drop it in. I was just trying to do some independent research in meantime. I obviously thought, quite incorrectly, that out of the 49k registered members on P&B that one person might understand the mechanisms of a faulty Duel mass flywheel. Does the noise go away when you dip the clutch? Does it get worse under heavy load? Can you do anything to affect the noise? Youd be getting a heavy thudding noise more than a vibration, from my experience of them, and youd hear a different noise when under load. But if you're getting a vibration when sitting idle, it can literally only be something on the block. I wouldnt rule out a misfire as my own car had one and didn't put a light on. Dont even rule out something stupid like an engine mounting if you're not able to affect the noise. But the dual mass flywheel are a common problem, they can seize and instead of absorbing the shock they just transfer it back through the crankshaft. Honestly, it's hard to diagnose certain things without seeing the car and understand exactly what's going on. Edited April 28, 2019 by RandomGuy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 5 hours ago, John Lambies Doos said: 5 hours ago, RandomGuy. said: This. If your cars just bought and under warranty, and develops a fault, dont hum, haw and speculate about what's gone wrong. You have the right to take it back to the seller (who potentially knows what the issue is), and they have the right to get one attempt to sort it. Going down any other route just muddies the waters if you reach the stage of handing the car back. I am taking it back this week, I emailed them on Friday and will drop it in. I was just trying to do some independent research in meantime. I obviously thought, quite incorrectly, that out of the 49k registered members on P&B that one person might understand the mechanisms of a faulty Duel mass flywheel. Aye, the board of 'turning down the volume', 'heaters on and windows down', 'dugshite on the door handles' and 'kick her in the pie' is the place for independent advice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz FFC Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 What's the service costs on Hybrid and electric cars compared with a standard petrol car? No doubt all that savings on unleaded/diesel will get lost on OTT service costs 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UsedToGoToCentralPark Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 What's the service costs on Hybrid and electric cars compared with a standard petrol car? No doubt all that savings on unleaded/diesel will get lost on OTT service costsNope 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz FFC Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 1 minute ago, UsedToGoToCentralPark said: Nope Very surprised they're cheaper. Thought absolute minimum they'd be slightly more expensive 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Gaz FFC said: Very surprised they're cheaper. Thought absolute minimum they'd be slightly more expensive I'd have thought electrical cars would have far fewer parts, so less to go wrong and easier to service. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz FFC Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 1 minute ago, welshbairn said: I'd have thought electrical cars would have far fewer parts, so less to go wrong and easier to service. Wasn't my thinking. When something is new on the market they do seem to enjoy screwing you for it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, MixuFixit said: They seem to be a b*****d to insure compared to normal cars. I pay about £200, my pal's leaf is about £600. I think it depends more on the replacement cost of the car. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 35 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said: I think it depends more on the replacement cost of the car. And job. You save a fortune by giving yourself a slightly different category, hopefully within the realms of vague truth. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingscot Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 13 hours ago, Gaz FFC said: What's the service costs on Hybrid and electric cars compared with a standard petrol car? No doubt all that savings on unleaded/diesel will get lost on OTT service costs I've got a hybrid. I wouldn't say it has cost more than my last diesel to service, it seems pretty much the same. It does make you have to go to a franchise dealer to get a test of the battery every year to keep its warranty active. This is free, but of course, they would check and recommend repair of other things which was well mostly overly expensive at main dealer prices. I've actually gone back to petrol only for my next car, which is a shame as I wanted another but hybrids are silly money now since the diesel scandal and the extra per month doesn't add up for me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 I was driven home tonight in a Leaf taxi, I was alarmed at the rate that the battery % dropped over a 20 mile journey. I will need a lot of convincing that electric is the way forward. ETA, the driver said that charging wasn't a problem to him as the company he worked for had a car on charge and when his car battery was depleting , he just swapped over. f**k that.Keep in mind the tesla model 3 releases in the UK this year, comparable price to a bmw3 series and a 300 mile range with a battery that can be 70% charged in 20 mins or so, it’ll be a game changer. Prices will come down in next ten years. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 On 4/25/2019 at 09:59, Rugster said: Got my new car on Monday. Delighted with it. Loads of gadgets and the weirdest one was when I was driving to work yesterday using cruise control and the car started to slow down. I thought I'd accidentally clicked it off, but it has some ninja radar thing that senses when there are vehicles in front of you and it was slowing down and speeding up accordingly. Radar controlled cruise control will make those long trips to Stranraer etc more relaxing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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