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They don't like straight cash deals. Best scenario for a dealer is to buy your trade in at a rock bottom price, you to take one of their overpriced cars on finance(at the first rate they offer you which they earn commission on and for you to buy a service and warranty deal and car mats with their logo on. They dropped the price on a car I was looking at by £300 and  offered better finance than they opened with but it wasn't enough for me to buy. Car I was looking at is still on the forecourt and apparently losing them £300 a month by doing so. Car market is going to crash big time very soon (along with everything else)
 
Turn up in a month and make them an even lower offer, if for nothing else it may annoy a salesman.

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10 minutes ago, Joe Terrapin said:

They don't like straight cash deals. Best scenario for a dealer is to buy your trade in at a rock bottom price, you to take one of their overpriced cars on finance(at the first rate they offer you which they earn commission on and for you to buy a service and warranty deal and car mats with their logo on. They dropped the price on a car I was looking at by £300 and  offered better finance than they opened with but it wasn't enough for me to buy. Car I was looking at is still on the forecourt and apparently losing them £300 a month by doing so. Car market is going to crash big time very soon (along with everything else)

 

No one with a reasonable credit rating should finance a car through the dealer.

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51 minutes ago, Empty It said:
58 minutes ago, Joe Terrapin said:
They don't like straight cash deals. Best scenario for a dealer is to buy your trade in at a rock bottom price, you to take one of their overpriced cars on finance(at the first rate they offer you which they earn commission on and for you to buy a service and warranty deal and car mats with their logo on. They dropped the price on a car I was looking at by £300 and  offered better finance than they opened with but it wasn't enough for me to buy. Car I was looking at is still on the forecourt and apparently losing them £300 a month by doing so. Car market is going to crash big time very soon (along with everything else)
 

Turn up in a month and make them an even lower offer, if for nothing else it may annoy a salesman.

My mate did banger racing and asked at a garage about an old trade in lying away from the regular stock. The guy said around £600.00. He went back at night and smashed the lights and windows, then went in the next day and asked "How much do you want for it now"?

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1 minute ago, MixuFruit said:

I don't think that happened

It really did. He took his dog on the job.

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On 04/01/2021 at 09:08, DublinMagyar said:

Advice please - 2011 Ford Focus 1.6TDCi - "Engine Malfunction" came on this morning when under hard acceleration (joining motorway).  When I put the foot down, the car felt sluggish for a sec then the message popped up - after that, I couldn't accelerate hard at all (limp mode?). Kinda felt like the car was starved of fuel for a second - any ideas welcome?

Car is booked in for  a service tomorrow

Soooooo.................service was done and no major issues found, no DTC codes found. Mechanic did say the Alternator Drive Belt was worn and needs replaced (timing belt/water pump were done ~ 8k miles ago). Could this be the cause of the "engine malfunction"?

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Soooooo.................service was done and no major issues found, no DTC codes found. Mechanic did say the Alternator Drive Belt was worn and needs replaced (timing belt/water pump were done ~ 8k miles ago). Could this be the cause of the "engine malfunction"?
Would've been expected a battery light rather than an engine management light if that were the case

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9 minutes ago, DublinMagyar said:

Soooooo.................service was done and no major issues found, no DTC codes found. Mechanic did say the Alternator Drive Belt was worn and needs replaced (timing belt/water pump were done ~ 8k miles ago). Could this be the cause of the "engine malfunction"?

I had similar symptoms a while back, tried loads of things but it turned out one of the cylinders wasn't firing. It was only a 3 cylinder car so by the time I found out I'd fucked the car by over revving it to get up hills etc.

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I had similar symptoms a while back, tried loads of things but it turned out one of the cylinders wasn't firing. It was only a 3 cylinder car so by the time I found out I'd fucked the car by over revving it to get up hills etc.
Would that not show a DTC code?

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Just now, DublinMagyar said:
22 minutes ago, welshbairn said:
I had similar symptoms a while back, tried loads of things but it turned out one of the cylinders wasn't firing. It was only a 3 cylinder car so by the time I found out I'd fucked the car by over revving it to get up hills etc.

Would that not show a DTC code?

It did, but what ever it indicated was probably secondary to the main issue causing it. It's a while back but I did loads to it before finding out. 

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My mate did banger racing and asked at a garage about an old trade in lying away from the regular stock. The guy said around £600.00. He went back at night and smashed the lights and windows, then went in the next day and asked "How much do you want for it now"?
Your mates a dick.

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4 hours ago, UsedToGoToCentralPark said:
On 05/01/2021 at 18:46, Sergeant Wilson said:
My mate did banger racing and asked at a garage about an old trade in lying away from the regular stock. The guy said around £600.00. He went back at night and smashed the lights and windows, then went in the next day and asked "How much do you want for it now"?

Your mates a dick.(If it did indeed happen)

 

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Update on car buying....

Was gutted after a found a pre registered Leon in Kent (Covid epicentre)IMG_1610103792.214970.jpg and they sold it while I was negotiating me getting there after lockdown.

Ended up going PCH on an Octavia for £190/month. Not leased before but probably makes more sense in current uncertain climate with electrification, Covid, Brexit etc.

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Another car buying question. Looking at two cars online from the same company but different dealerships. Exact same car, fuel & transmission. Both ex-dealership employee used, same year registration (2 months apart, 19 plates) and one mileage is 11k, the other 12k. One is £18.25k, the other £19.9k.

Other than the cheaper one having damage not visible in the pictures, what reasons could there be for one being significantly cheaper?

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7 minutes ago, Honest_Man#1 said:

Another car buying question. Looking at two cars online from the same company but different dealerships. Exact same car, fuel & transmission. Both ex-dealership employee used, same year registration (2 months apart, 19 plates) and one mileage is 11k, the other 12k. One is £18.25k, the other £19.9k.

Other than the cheaper one having damage not visible in the pictures, what reasons could there be for one being significantly cheaper?

exact same spec or just car? Engine/alloys/metallic paint/interior differences etc?

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4 minutes ago, MixuFruit said:

exact same spec or just car? Engine/alloys/metallic paint/interior differences etc?

Managed to find the difference in the small print. More expensive option has ‘executive package’ which appears to be a slightly bigger screen on the dash, heated seats and parking assist. Not a huge difference for an extra £1.7k.

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26 minutes ago, Honest_Man#1 said:

Managed to find the difference in the small print. More expensive option has ‘executive package’ which appears to be a slightly bigger screen on the dash, heated seats and parking assist. Not a huge difference for an extra £1.7k.

Depending on how you're paying for it I'd be tempted to go delux, if you're getting it on monthly payments it won't make a big difference and I like new things to play with like parking assist.

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6 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

Depending on how you're paying for it I'd be tempted to go delux, if you're getting it on monthly payments it won't make a big difference and I like new things to play with like parking assist.

Will probably pay half with a personal loan so yes would have a monthly payment. Will have a think but inclined to agree.

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Had to get the turbo something or other replaced just before Christmas. New one fitted cost about 500 quid all in(600 CHF in real money). A bit annoying, but a lot cheaper than I expected here.

Still considering buying a camper van. Prices appear to have dropped a couple of grand in the last few months. I guess a lot of people bought them at the beginning of Covid and are now regretting that decision. Will hold off another few months and see if prices fall further.

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