Mak Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2396324/Peru-drug-mule-girls-went-day-shopping-spree.html "Laughing and singing You're just too good to be true" Daft wee lassies must've thought they'd made it. Thanks for that. Wasn't doubting you'd seen it somewhere, just wanted to see it for myself. I don't necessarily think it proves that they particularly wanted to be drug mules, although I'm also not saying they didn't. I see two possible scenarios: They got involved with the wrong crowd in Ibiza and were persuaded to do this with the promise of a big pay-off (so basically out of greed). They got involved with the wrong crowd in Ibiza, got in above their heads and did this to pay off a debt or something along those lines. By the time they realised they were in above their heads it was too late to back out, and the whole laughing and joking thing was them putting a brave face on it. FWIW I reckon it's probably somewhere in between, but it doesn't really change anything as they'd struggle to defend themselves on the basis of their having been coerced even if it had really happened exactly the way they describe it. It's not really something that'd be easy to prove unless they could get the gangsters to come forward and admit to it. Either way I feel a bit sorry for them as they're basically daft wee lassies who've made a series of bad judgements and are about to get pretty severely punished for them. That's not to say that I think they should be dealt with leniently on that basis - the law's the law and being a daft wee lassie isn't going to cut it as a defence - but I think that it's possible to think that they should be dealt with as is standard whilst still feeling a bit sorry for them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONKMAN Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 #mightnotcomeback Well at least not for a decade or so. Imagine that though, 10 years in South American prison and the first thing you see upon arrival home is prestwick. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 She is a bit Brian Clough for her age. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Some local lawyer said if they plead guilty and say sorry, they could get 6 years and out in 2 with good behaviour. If they fight it they could spend three years banged up before trial, and then get 8-12 years if found guilty. Hope they've got good lawyers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Some local lawyer said if they plead guilty and say sorry, they could get 6 years and out in 2 with good behaviour. If they fight it they could spend three years banged up before trial, and then get 8-12 years if found guilty. Hope they've got good lawyers.Help is on hand! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 She is a bit Brian Clough for her age. I'd pump her. Seriously though, I think they've been naive but think they've been threatened to some extent. Certainly not 100% innocent by looks of it. I've actually been in those apartments a few timed where she was staying at in Ibiza. Many an after perty in there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mak Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Did anyone else read that article with the girl who used to live with her and think 'what the f**k were you doing in Ibiza?'? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinkinFighter Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Did anyone else read that article with the girl who used to live with her and think 'what the f**k were you doing in Ibiza?'? Link? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONKMAN Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Did anyone else read that article with the girl who used to live with her and think 'what the f**k were you doing in Ibiza?'? She'd piss me off if she lived in my flat. The other one was doing Ibiza the right way. Well apart from fucking off to South America, for a spot of trafficking 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Did anyone else read that article with the girl who used to live with her and think 'what the f**k were you doing in Ibiza?'? Yip. Go hard or go home!! Cannae wait to go back. Fooking love it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northsea80 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Don't fall in with a bad crowd, stay away from a one eyed scouser! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bairney Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 (edited) Thanks for that. Wasn't doubting you'd seen it somewhere, just wanted to see it for myself. I don't necessarily think it proves that they particularly wanted to be drug mules, although I'm also not saying they didn't. I see two possible scenarios: They got involved with the wrong crowd in Ibiza and were persuaded to do this with the promise of a big pay-off (so basically out of greed). They got involved with the wrong crowd in Ibiza, got in above their heads and did this to pay off a debt or something along those lines. By the time they realised they were in above their heads it was too late to back out, and the whole laughing and joking thing was them putting a brave face on it. FWIW I reckon it's probably somewhere in between, but it doesn't really change anything as they'd struggle to defend themselves on the basis of their having been coerced even if it had really happened exactly the way they describe it. It's not really something that'd be easy to prove unless they could get the gangsters to come forward and admit to it. Either way I feel a bit sorry for them as they're basically daft wee lassies who've made a series of bad judgements and are about to get pretty severely punished for them. That's not to say that I think they should be dealt with leniently on that basis - the law's the law and being a daft wee lassie isn't going to cut it as a defence - but I think that it's possible to think that they should be dealt with as is standard whilst still feeling a bit sorry for them. The other point is once you're in that culture, it becomes the norm. Back in the days of rolling joints with mates, you think everyone is at and it's not illegal. Throw in the 'free' money and the lifestyle in Ibiza and it becomes rock'n'roll. She said to her flatmate in the DR article she didn't have to work, so I suspect she was already lined up for the trip. Feel sorry for her family. She told her dad in prison in Lima she knew nothing of cocaine, and he believes her - he then sees the story in the DR. What must he be thinking? Edited August 19, 2013 by bairney 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T_S_A_R Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 i agree with the post above. it's very easy when your away on a long holiday or travelling to forget what the real world is like and the girl from lenzie was obviously partying hard for an extended period which will effect your judgement a fair bit. the grassing flatmate is a disgrace. think of all the poor 18 year olds heading for their first ibiza holiday who now have to convince their parents that they're not going to be lieing in a k hole for a week 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mak Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Definitely agree with the last two posts. Granted most people who go away manage to avoid flying out to Peru to be drug mules, but you definitely do lose perspective at that age and in that environment. The Irish one is a 7.5/ 10, maybe 8.5 on a good day. A sad loss. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny van Axeldongen Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 I hope they get 5-10 years. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperCaleyGoBallistic Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 I hope they get 5-10 years. ^^^ Peruvian prison guard IMO 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Parr Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 So since the Crash they've now both been charged and remanded. No plea yet but any subsequent trial could take months, if not years, to be held. Meantime a judge is deciding which prison to send them to. Doesn't look great for them 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanky_ffc Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 (edited) instagram.com/melissareid50 Can't post the pic from here but she's put up a photo of an old Motorola phone she'd been using in Ibiza with the hashtag, #wongamaker. Also, quite a few photos of her on nights out with #tripping, #trippingballs and #neigggghhh. ETA: A few of her pics have #mightnotcomeback Edited August 22, 2013 by lanky_ffc 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placidcasual Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 instagram.com/melissareid50 ETA: A few of her pics have #mightnotcomeback #prophetic #unlucks 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergie's no1 fan Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 instagram.com/melissareid50 Can't post the pic from here but she's put up a photo of an old Motorola phone she'd been using in Ibiza with the hashtag, #wongamaker. Also, quite a few photos of her on nights out with #tripping, #trippingballs and #neigggghhh. ETA: A few of her pics have #mightnotcomeback She's clearly a tosser. Good riddance. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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