welshbairn Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 On 07/12/2021 at 14:51, jimbaxters said: Your choice pal and I'm not throwing bricks but my soul tells me going private is another nail in the NHS. My Mother is 93 and all she does is read and knit all day. Her eyesight is down to 50% due to cloudy cataracts which is borderline to qualify for NHS surgery, and I think she'd have to wait a couple of years minimum and then get one eye sorted and the other a few months later. Going private she could get them both done next week, although we're waiting a bit as she can still read with the use of bright lighting and any surgery incurs a risk at her age. Ideology goes out of the window when it's someone close to you, although we'd be thinking harder about it if it was going to use NHS facilities and staff to jump the queue. It's done at Optical Express opticians, so it's really not much different from laser treatment, using their full time ophthalmic surgeons. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbaxters Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 1 minute ago, welshbairn said: My Mother is 93 and all she does is read and knit all day. Her eyesight is down to 50% due to cloudy cataracts which is borderline to qualify for NHS surgery, and I think she'd have to wait a couple of years minimum and then get one eye sorted and the other a few months later. Going private she could get them both done next week, although we're waiting a bit as she can still read with the use of bright lighting and any surgery incurs a risk at her age. Ideology goes out of the window when it's someone close to you, although we'd be thinking harder about it if it was going to use NHS facilities and staff to jump the queue. It's done at Optical Express opticians, so it's really not much different from laser treatment, using their full time ophthalmic surgeons. Fair play pal. You're absolutely right that it's easy to be right on about it all when it's not one of your own and ostensibly, this is why it will never change. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbaxters Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Lisa Cuddy said: In theory, yes. In practice, you’ve just added more people to the NHS workload without the medical teams available to cover that. Don’t think that the teams covering private medicine on a full or part time basis would be enough to meet the needs of the service. They won’t be. I don’t like a two-tier system any more than you do, I don’t think it’s fair anyone should be waiting years for any treatment, but the NHS can’t do it all and private care goes some way to bolstering the system. Remove private healthcare and a lot of treatment that can’t be justified by the health service but actually does save and improve lives is gone. Certain types of therapy, cosmetic procedures, fertility services, for examples, will be drastically reduced while the focus switches elsewhere. Agreed. Basically, the NHS can reach it's potential but only through the working platform of true socialism. Very sadly this will never be realised but if ever there was an area where we should strive to reach it is in health care. The potential was there when the NHS was set up and is still the envy of the world but it has been let down badly over the years to the point where end users are now abandoning it. Anyway.....anyone got a RTBC? Edited December 13, 2021 by jimbaxters 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiegoDiego Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 The potential was there when the NHS was set up and is still the envy of the worldIs it though? Is healthcare in the UK really envied by those in Germany, Finland, New Zealand or Korea? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbaxters Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 39 minutes ago, DiegoDiego said: Is it though? Is healthcare in the UK really envied by those in Germany, Finland, New Zealand or Korea? Ok. Many countries in the world then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 RTBC for other folk here.... I just walked into the bathroom to find water everywhere. Unable to locate the source, I got on my hands knees and began cleani g it all up. I noted that there was no water at all in the toilet bowl, so I flushed it and the water level held. No leaks. I then went upstairs and noted a drop in the level of the bowls there. Then I remmebered that there were drainage folk in the street fucking about with a big vacuum tanker etc. I have arrived at the conclusion that they have altered the pressure in the drains during the course of their work and blew the downstairs toilet out all over the floor, with (presumably) large amounts of other folks pish. No shit was evident. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 You can't blame people for using private healthcare when the NHS has been stretched to the point that they'd be waiting years for treatment. But that's the point; the idea is to gradually run the NHS down until most of the people who can afford it have gone private and start asking "why am I still paying for this poor service that I don't use?" Once the NHS is gone (or exists only notionally as a shell service), that's when you'll discover the true cost of private healthcare and insurance, and the only people happy about it will be those who would never have used it in the first place. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trackdaybob Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 A 10% discount code from Sportsbikeshop Now for some proper christmas shopping 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 4 hours ago, welshbairn said: My Mother is 93 and all she does is read and knit all day. Living the dream tbh. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 4 hours ago, welshbairn said: My Mother is 93 and all she does is read and knit all day. Her eyesight is down to 50% due to cloudy cataracts which is borderline to qualify for NHS surgery, and I think she'd have to wait a couple of years minimum and then get one eye sorted and the other a few months later. Going private she could get them both done next week, although we're waiting a bit as she can still read with the use of bright lighting and any surgery incurs a risk at her age. Ideology goes out of the window when it's someone close to you, although we'd be thinking harder about it if it was going to use NHS facilities and staff to jump the queue. It's done at Optical Express opticians, so it's really not much different from laser treatment, using their full time ophthalmic surgeons. My dad had a cataract operation a few months back and it went horrendously wrong. Virtually blind in that eye now and cannot drive, or read. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Just now, scottsdad said: My dad had a cataract operation a few months back and it went horrendously wrong. Virtually blind in that eye now and cannot drive, or read. Why is that making you cheerful? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Just now, scottsdad said: My dad had a cataract operation a few months back and it went horrendously wrong. Virtually blind in that eye now and cannot drive, or read. Shite, sorry to hear that. Was that the NHS? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Shite, sorry to hear that. Was that the NHS? Yes indeed. Really taken his independence. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said: Why is that making you cheerful? His old man is the Professor IMO. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 5 minutes ago, scottsdad said: Yes indeed. Really taken his independence. Think we'll wait until she's nearly blind before risking it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 17 minutes ago, scottsdad said: My dad had a cataract operation a few months back and it went horrendously wrong. Virtually blind in that eye now and cannot drive, or read. Medical malpractice, or just a rare side effect? My mum finally had hers done in between lockdowns, after years of waiting (by the end, she said she could see two extra sets of players when we went to the Recs). Seems to have gone alright for her but, considering how the NHS is going, I'm resigned to going blind when it's my turn. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broon-loon Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, BFTD said: (by the end, she said she could see two extra sets of players when we went to the Recs). I did wonder at why OOh AAH were still way above us in the Leagues.. Edited December 13, 2021 by broon-loon typo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 18 hours ago, BFTD said: Medical malpractice, or just a rare side effect? My mum finally had hers done in between lockdowns, after years of waiting (by the end, she said she could see two extra sets of players when we went to the Recs). Seems to have gone alright for her but, considering how the NHS is going, I'm resigned to going blind when it's my turn. Just a side effect I think. he's certainly not blaming anyone, it is just one of those things. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 1 hour ago, scottsdad said: Just a side effect I think. he's certainly not blaming anyone, it is just one of those things. Eyes are all trial and error in surgery terms. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UsedToGoToCentralPark Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Going to go to the cinema tonight, on my own, think you can get a beer in there as well. Happy Times. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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