DiegoDiego Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 I like the thing going round just now that you should take whatever Elon Musk says, then replace 'Elon Musk said' with 'My Uncle Larry said' as it injects a healthy dose of scepticism.The only thing he's actually engineered recently is a cult of personality. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Man Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 1 hour ago, MixuFixit said: I like the thing going round just now that you should take whatever Elon Musk says, then replace 'Elon Musk said' with 'My Uncle Larry said' as it injects a healthy dose of scepticism. I started taking what he was saying slightly less seriously when he resorted to name-calling during the Thai cave rescue saga and called yon boy a "paedo" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 On 03/11/2018 at 18:58, welshbairn said: Whatever you think about Elon Musk, this was brilliant. Current position, beyond the Mars orbit. I'll forgive him anything for doing this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Another attempt for stumpy. Modelled on Trump's penis according to Stormy Daniels. About 25 minutes till whatever. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Raidernation Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Another attempt for stumpy. Modelled on Trump's penis according to Stormy Daniels. About 25 minutes till whatever. I almost expected the music from “Space 1999”In a good way 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 1 am over here if anyone can be arsed. Think the final version will be about twice as tall with an added first stage and both capable of landing back on land and reused. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Moved till 2 am, think I'll leave till the morning. https://www.spacex.com/webcast 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerberus Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Jeff Bezos has unveiled a plan to help NASA land people on the moon's south pole by 2024. https://www.geekwire.com/2019/jeff-bezos-announces-star-team-blue-origins-blue-moon-lunar-lander/ Why is it a priority? What's up there? Aliens 'n whatnot? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 6 hours ago, Cerberus said: Jeff Bezos has unveiled a plan to help NASA land people on the moon's south pole by 2024. https://www.geekwire.com/2019/jeff-bezos-announces-star-team-blue-origins-blue-moon-lunar-lander/ Why is it a priority? What's up there? Aliens 'n whatnot? They want to beat the Chinese https://www.fool.com/investing/2019/10/20/could-chinese-astronauts-beat-nasa-back-to-the-moo.aspx 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorlomin Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 South Pole of the Moon has water. The cost of getting a ton of anything into space is pretty big, mostly to get it past the Earths gravity and air resistance. Even with SpaceX its about $3000 per kg at the cheapest. If you have to lift the kgs of water from the Moon it takes something like 1/50th of the rocket fuel or something so much less fuel and in theory cheaper. Why 2024, well NASA has a mission for that year slotted for its new rocket the SLS, but only to go around the Moon. The current NASA chief reckons that by turning it into a Moon landing mission, you will only have one presidential election between now and then so both candidates will likely have to commit to such a short term project in an election and it will be much harder to kill it with the public. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artemis_3 Bezos seems to have gotten the contract for the lander, I new they were in the running but had not kept up to date. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 22 minutes ago, dorlomin said: Why 2024, well NASA has a mission for that year slotted for its new rocket the SLS, but only to go around the Moon. The current NASA chief reckons that by turning it into a Moon landing mission, you will only have one presidential election between now and then so both candidates will likely have to commit to such a short term project in an election and it will be much harder to kill it with the public. The original plan was for 2028 but Trump got Pence to announce 2024 for his own reasons. There isn't a chance in hell they'll be ready by then without an Apollo style boost in funding. The SLS is years behind schedule and they haven't even awarded contracts for most of the other stuff yet. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 44 minutes ago, dorlomin said: South Pole of the Moon has water. The cost of getting a ton of anything into space is pretty big, mostly to get it past the Earths gravity and air resistance. Even with SpaceX its about $3000 per kg at the cheapest. If you have to lift the kgs of water from the Moon it takes something like 1/50th of the rocket fuel or something so much less fuel and in theory cheaper. Why 2024, well NASA has a mission for that year slotted for its new rocket the SLS, but only to go around the Moon. The current NASA chief reckons that by turning it into a Moon landing mission, you will only have one presidential election between now and then so both candidates will likely have to commit to such a short term project in an election and it will be much harder to kill it with the public. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artemis_3 Bezos seems to have gotten the contract for the lander, I new they were in the running but had not kept up to date. What kind of water? Why would anyone need lunar water anyway?! Unless it was for study, I can't see what use it would be. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Priti priti priti Patel Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Some videos I've enjoyed recently which touch on all of this... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaboz Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Yeah yeah but does the water support Rangers or Celtic? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Priti priti priti Patel Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 49 minutes ago, DA Baracus said: What kind of water? Why would anyone need lunar water anyway?! Unless it was for study, I can't see what use it would be. Fuel, oxygen, drinking water, growing crops, among other things. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 51 minutes ago, DA Baracus said: What kind of water? Why would anyone need lunar water anyway?! Unless it was for study, I can't see what use it would be. If you're going on holiday to Moonbase you're going to want a jacuzzi after spending all that money. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, Margaret Thatcher said: Fuel, oxygen, drinking water, growing crops, among other things. Ah, I get you. You’re talking about use on the moon itself, not for taking back to Earth. I misread the previous chat and thought it was about getting such water back to our planet, which would be utterly pointless! So the end game here seems to be colonisation of a sort, although probably more for study than actually living there (I hear it’s quite chilly!). Lunar water would be very interesting itself to study. No telling what is in it and what kind of water it would even be! Doubtful that it would be H2O surely? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 1 minute ago, DA Baracus said: Doubtful that it would be H2O surely? Is there any other kind? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Priti priti priti Patel Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Not just for use on the moon. One of the significant engineering challenges with going to Mars and the outer solar system (manned or unmanned) is getting enough propellant into orbit. This would potentially avoid that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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